No HCG...No Problem?

[mooseman]

Hey, New to the boards here...good to finally find a place with so much info and quality advice from people who are dedicated...I want to start my first cycle very soon but I have read that HCG is definately needed for a 12 week cycle...The problem is I can not get HCG and am planning on using Clomid/Nolva for PCT...What do you all think?

Stats: 20 years old
Lifting for 4 years seriously
5ft 11 at 225 lbs 13%bodyfat (got it checked)

I got my diet in check as well and get plenty of rest and sleep...

Planning
250 of Sust Every 5 Days week 1-12
30mg of D-Bol ED week 1-4

Also planning on doing 20mg ED of Nolva during week 6 to combat any gyno during cycle (opinions on this?)

3-5 days after last injection...
Day 1 Clomid 300mg, Day 2-10 100mg ED, Day 11-20 50mg ED
3 weeks of Nolva at 20mg ED then 1 week of 10mg ED

Any opinions or help are appreciated...

Thanks,

MooseMan

 

[SwolK]

dont run the nolv during cycle unless you have gyno symtoms. use and AI all the way through cycle and post cycle (PCT). an AI like adex, aromasin, or AIFM. extend the nolv 4 weeks for PCT.

you can probably get away without using HCG. just depends on how much your nuts shrink. everyone is different. better safe then sorry

 

[SwolK]

also, i would not start post cycle for at least 7-10 days (maybe even 14) after last injection. 3-5 days is too early

 

[mooseman]

also, i would not start post cycle for at least 7-10 days (maybe even 14) after last injection. 3-5 days is too early

Thanks for the info Swolk, waiting 7-10 days or longer after last injection is to ensure long acting esters of Sust are through system? And what is the usual dosage for Aromasin?

MooseMan

 

[SwolK]

Thanks for the info Swolk, waiting 7-10 days or longer after last injection is to ensure long acting esters of Sust are through system? And what is the usual dosage for Aromasin?

MooseMan

1. yes

2. cant remember, maybe 12.5-25mg ed?? dont quote me on that.
AIFM is good stuff too, can get it from the AF store. pretty cheap also