Next cycle:

[cyrex]

Doing research for my next cycle which I don't plan to start until sometime in August.

I'll have had 1 cycle under my belt by then (nearing the end of my first right now).

This one was Test and dbol
I've more than exceeded my expectations with this cycle, but I'd like to get harder and more cut with my next cycle. I'd really like to take a go at Tren and may EQ so I'm looking at possible cycles to research from now until then.

Here is what I'm thinking:

Cycle 1:
Test E 500mg/wk wk 1-14
Tren Ace 50mg/ED wk 1-6
EQ 400mg/wk wk 1-12
anavar 60mg/ED wk 12-16

PCT starting wk 17

Cycle 2:
Tren Ace 50mg/Ed wk 1-6
Test Prop 100mg/Ed wk 1-6

PCT starting wk 7

Cycle 3:
Tren Ace 50mg/ed wk 1-6
Test Prop 100mg/ed wk 1-6
Anavar 60mg/ed wk 1-6

PCT starting wk 7


any comments here?

this won't be for a while. I'm gonna try to get down to around 10 % bodyfat starting this but will not start one again unless i'm under 12 % minimum

 

[ego boner]

NOOOOO, THEYRE ALL GONNA LAUGH AT YOU, THEYRE ALL GONNA LAUGH AT YOU

 

[cyrex]

BTW those are cycle suggestions I'm not planning on doing any one in particular.

right now I'm thinking just Test/EQ

but i'd really like to incorporate Tren..

 

[SlimJim300]

Cycle 3 looks good to me personally. I don't have experience with EQ. If you try tren I recommend getting dostinex. If I don't use it my nipples lactate, so I wouldn't risk it. Is this a lean mass or a cutter?

 

[big49ersfan]

currently on a 6 week cut and IMO it is too short in duration byt he time the gear kicks in your already have way thru. but apart form that not used tren or eq so cant help but i would definantly run it for longer than 6 weeks the whole cycle tha tis and not the tren

 

[SlimJim300]

I don't want to hijack your thread, but what are the final results from your first cycle, and what dose/length did you use?

 

[SlimJim300]

currently on a 6 week cut and IMO it is too short in duration byt he time the gear kicks in your already have way thru. but apart form that not used tren or eq so cant help but i would definantly run it for longer than 6 weeks the whole cycle tha tis and not the tren

I do agree that 6 weeks is short for a cutter... Cyrex, maybe you could extend the prop another four weeks for a total of 10 (keep the tren at 6 weeks). You could add in the var at 90mg when you finish the tren, and run it for the last four weeks with the prop.

That way you go through the same quantity of tren and var as in cycle 3 you laid out, but with a different schedule. The only thing you would add is another 4 weeks of prop.

 

[cyrex]

Cycle 3 looks good to me personally. I don't have experience with EQ. If you try tren I recommend getting dostinex. If I don't use it my nipples lactate, so I wouldn't risk it. Is this a lean mass or a cutter?

lean mass.. i'm gonna cut down to 10% before hand

 

[jmt24]

you can frontload the eq so it kicks in quicker. id do a test prop/tren/eq (frontloaded) for 8 weeks. i think its something like 3 times the first week and 2 times the second week. there was a couple threads on frontloading recently.

 

[big49ersfan]

I do agree that 6 weeks is short for a cutter... Cyrex, maybe you could extend the prop another four weeks for a total of 10 (keep the tren at 6 weeks). You could add in the var at 90mg when you finish the tren, and run it for the last four weeks with the prop.

That way you go through the same quantity of tren and var as in cycle 3 you laid out, but with a different schedule. The only thing you would add is another 4 weeks of prop.

or plan on running

weeks 1-10 prop
weeks 1-6 tren
weeks 1-10 anavar

get bloods done after 6 weeks and if you liver values are still ok then carry on the var till week 10. your lipids are likely to be out of wack using gear so running even if they are stoppingt he var at this point will do little to help restore them.

 

[cyrex]

My current cycle I'm finishing up is just 500mg/wk of Test (enanthate)
with 30mg/ED of dbol the last 4 weeks.
I started at around 260 lbs and now i'm at 295. I've been on .5 mg of arimidex ED also.

My last injection will be in 1 week.


I'm opening to suggestions for a completely new cycle to try out.

I'm doing research right now on a tren cycle to figure out what I can do but for now the plan is:

500 mg Test E wk 1-14
750 mg EQ wk 1-2
500 mg EQ wk 3-12
20 mg dbol ED wk 1-4
60 mg var ED wk 10-16
.5mg arimidex ED throughout

Possibly no frontloading on the EQ and no dbol to kickstart (all depends on how strong I feel at the time)

 

[SlimJim300]

That looks pretty good! You may not want to mess with tren on your second cycle anyway, now that I think of it. Dostinex money can always go towards more test

One more question about your other cycle -- how much weight had you put on by the time you added dbol?

 

[cyrex]

or plan on running

weeks 1-10 prop
weeks 1-6 tren
weeks 1-10 anavar

get bloods done after 6 weeks and if you liver values are still ok then carry on the var till week 10. your lipids are likely to be out of wack using gear so running even if they are stoppingt he var at this point will do little to help restore them.

I might look into that
what kinda dose on anavar?
40mg?
60?
80?

 

[cyrex]

That looks pretty good! You may not want to mess with tren on your second cycle anyway, now that I think of it. Dostinex money can always go towards more test

One more question about your other cycle -- how much weight had you put on by the time you added dbol?

Weight gain has been steady throughout. When I added the dbol i gained maybe 1 lbs/week more than I had been. I missed a dose of arimidex and shot up about 7 lbs the next day and then pissed about 6 of it out when I lowered my sodium intake and took .75 mg arimidex.
I think the arimidex has been keeping the water weight off pretty good.

 

[cyrex]

anyone? suggestions?

Test
EQ
Fina possibly?

 

[cyrex]

bump

 

[jmt24]

ive been debating for a while to try fina and i still cant decide. i think its one of the aas that i will be staying away from. there are so many people that like it and hate it so the only way to know with it is to try it. ive never tried var either but i dont think i will bc of the price. too much money for what it is. im just goin to stick to tbol. i also tend to overthink my next cycle too much. i start out very simple and then i start to add more and more until i have to chose between 10 cycles. i like the plain and simple eq and test for you if you want to get hard and cut. prob go with

1-12 test e 500mg/wk
1-12 eq 600mg/wk
1-pct 50mg proviron ed.
1-pct aifm or adex (.50-1mg ed)

hcg/noval pct.

 

[Stacemranger]

Cyrex, I'd do the cycle 1 in your plan if you wanted to try it. You'll never know if it works for you until you try it, tren's like that.

 

[cyrex]

Cyrex, I'd do the cycle 1 in your plan if you wanted to try it. You'll never know if it works for you until you try it, tren's like that.

Yeah there's the rub

seems like although it's not good to try for a first cycle, there is no good time to try tren out and see how you react. Its one of those where people absolutely love it and others absolutely hate it.

I've experienced no sides at all with Test and dbol (other than some obvious water weight with the dbol which is easily handled with adex). So I at least know that I'm not extremely sensative to andro sides.

Might it be good to try deca before I go with tren?
or not

 

[big49ersfan]

i dont htink anyone h8 tren they just cant handl/ wont accept the sides. most live what is does to there muscularity.

minum of 60mg ed then mid way bloods and reajust/ come off accordingly IMO ith long term oral use blood are essential rather than a no no depend on how your body responds once agin IMO.

 

[surferstar]

This is the cycle im starting in a few days, relatively similar
wk 1-4 dbol 50mgED
wk 1-12 Test Cyp 500mg/wk
wk 1-12 EQ 600mg/wk
wk 7-12 Tren A 350mg/wk ED inj
wk 9-12 Winni 100mg ED

Cyp and EQ should cut down on the injs. once week
easier to do ED tren

 

[cyrex]

This is the cycle im starting in a few days, relatively similar
wk 1-4 dbol 50mgED
wk 1-12 Test Cyp 500mg/wk
wk 1-12 EQ 600mg/wk
wk 7-12 Tren A 350mg/wk ED inj
wk 9-12 Winni 100mg ED

Cyp and EQ should cut down on the injs. once week
easier to do ED tren

that one looks decent too

i might even go that route minus the winni and replacing the dbol with anavar (extending it an extra week or two)

dbol has been giving me some crazy back and calf pumps. Plus my next cycle will be for lean hard muscle. I want as little bloat as possible