Next cycle idea

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4th cycle, i cut my previous one short due to the worst flu ive ever had so it was only 6 weeks of really long esters but actually had good gains believe it or not. Lost it all from illness and just decided to cut my losses on it.

Test Cyp 600mg/wk weeks 1-14
EQ 500mg/wk weeks 1-14
Tren Ace 50mg/ED weeks 1-6
Winstrol 50mg/ED weeks 8-14
Taurine 10g/day weeks 1-14
Adex .25/EOD weeks 1-14
Caber .5mg/MWF weeks 1-6
HCG 250iu/ 2Xweek weeks 7-16
Forged Liver or Milk thistle weeks 9-14
PCT:
Clomid 50mg/Day weeks 17-20
Unleashed/Post cycle weeks 17-20
forma weeks 17-20
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Stats:
5'10"
200 lbs
14%
38 yrs
Diet: 3200-3500 cal, 300-400g prot
Training: Weights 3X week, each muscle 1X week, cardio 45 minutes track jog 3X week on non-weight days.
Goal: 5-7 lb lean gain, 1%-2% BF drop, total swing of 7-11 lb lean gain.

Im tempted to throw in tren ace instead of Beast for 6 weeks and i know for losing fat and gaining muscle it is awesome but am holding off as long as i can before taking that plunge until later cycle since Ive never tried beast or winstrol.

EIDT: decided to go ahead and throw in the tren instead of beast since our central texas summers start soon and are long and hot, which makes running tren more advantageous right now before the heat kills me while on it.

 

[notjake11]

Personally I'd say take the Test Transdermal as your kicker instead of the Test P.

 

[dylangemelli]

Whats your goal from the cycle bro

 

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Whats your goal from the cycle bro

read the whole post

 

[dylangemelli]

read the whole post

Sorry bro... Im using my phone and scanned it a bit quickly... I would save the beast for a cycle aimed for more size... I would kick with tbol and finish with anavar or winstrol...

 

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Sorry bro... Im using my phone and scanned it a bit quickly... I would save the beast for a cycle aimed for more size... I would kick with tbol and finish with anavar or winstrol...

well i have 3 unopened bottles of beast and all Ive heard about it is great strength and lean gains no bloat etc. Also seen it used in nothing but kickstarts. I really just have a lot of gear and need to use what I have before blowing more cash on even more gear. Got some EQ leftover that I can manage to run at 400mg for 14 weeks so thinking about throwing that in since its great for lean gains.

 

[noodles1010]

4th cycle, i cut my previous one short due to the worst flu ive ever had so it was only 6 weeks of really long esters but actually had good gains believe it or not. Lost it all from illness and just decided to cut my losses on it.

Test Cyp 600mg/wk weeks 1-12
Beast 30mg/day weeks 1-4
Tprop 100mg/EOD weeks 1-4<---This is optional depending on how good Beast is at a kickstart
Winstrol 50mg/ED weeks 7-12
Taurine 10g/day weeks 1-12
Adex .25/EOD weeks 1-12
HCG 250iu/ 2Xweek weeks 1-12
Forged Liver or Milk thistle weeks 1-4, 7-12
PCT:
Clomid 50mg/Day weeks 15-18
Unleashed/Post cycle weeks 15-18
forma weeks 15-18
Bridge

Stats:
5'10"
200 lbs
14%
38 yrs
Diet: 3200-3500 cal, 300-400g prot
Training: Weights 3X week, each muscle 1X week, cardio 45 minutes track jog 3X week on non-weight days.
Goal: 5-7 lb lean gain, 1%-2% BF drop, total swing of 7-11 lb lean gain.

Im tempted to throw in tren ace instead of Beast for 6 weeks and i know for losing fat and gaining muscle it is awesome but am holding off as long as i can before taking that plunge until later cycle since Ive never tried beast or winstrol.

Just my opinion...
Drop beast (good for size but I think there are better options to stack with the prop and cyp)
Like Dylan said, maybe a tbol kicker at 60mg Ed.
Or maybe drop the prop and beast and add in andromix. That could be insanity there. Awesomeeee gains.

I won't mess with winny because of toxicity and sides. I'm sure everyone knows by now I'm a fan of anavar.

Also I've been using test infusion the past week or so. Find a place for it in pct. I really like it. I think U will too bro.

Why did u decide to run hcg the entire cycle and not just pick it up around week 7? Just curious

 

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Just my opinion...
Drop beast (good for size but I think there are better options to stack with the prop and cyp)
Like Dylan said, maybe a tbol kicker at 60mg Ed.
Or maybe drop the prop and beast and add in andromix. That could be insanity there. Awesomeeee gains.

I won't mess with winny because of toxicity and sides. I'm sure everyone knows by now I'm a fan of anavar.

Also I've been using test infusion the past week or so. Find a place for it in pct. I really like it. I think U will too bro.

Why did u decide to run hcg the entire cycle and not just pick it up around week 7? Just curious

Ok i can drop the beast and keep the tprop but i have way too much gear stockpiled that i need to just use before buying even more. promised my wife i wouldnt lol
I thought shutdown occurs really soon so i was gonna run the hcg entire cycle, but if thats not the case i can certainly start week 7 since it will save me some hcg.

 

[bigbassturd]

1-12 Test Cyp 600mg
1-4 Test Prop kicker
1-6 Winny 50mg ED or Tbol 60mg
EQ throughout

 

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1-12 Test Cyp 600mg
1-4 Test Prop kicker
1-6 Winny 50mg ED or Tbol 60mg
EQ throughout

wouldnt winstrol or tbol be better at the end?

 

[bigbassturd]

Save the HCG for weeks 11-14, so last two weeks of cycle, through the break and up to start of PCT

 

[bigbassturd]

wouldnt winstrol or tbol be better at the end?

some people like to finish with a 'cutter,' especially if they ran a kickstart with something else, but really you can kick a lean gain cycle off with tbol or winny or var just fine. It will kick in quick while the test esters are building.

 

[noodles1010]

Ok i can drop the beast and keep the tprop but i have way too much gear stockpiled that i need to just use before buying even more. promised my wife i wouldnt lol
I thought shutdown occurs really soon so i was gonna run the hcg entire cycle, but if thats not the case i can certainly start week 7 since it will save me some hcg.

Lolol sounds like my gf. She won't even let me buy a multi vitamin at this point lol.
Shut down occurs after the first injection of test but its inevitable. Hcg will help keep your Lh and fsh alive. But test production will be minimal at best. Where testosterone inj. is telling your brain to tell your balls stop producing, the hcg is telling your balls to tell the brain we are still going. It's a game of tug of war on your balls lol bad analogy. Unnecessary if u ask me.. It won't hurt either way. I never did it. Running week 7 into pct will be fine imo...Then your going on clomid which will take over from there.
Run the cyp... Prop as the kicker for fast results, and use the winny on the back end.
Man you are gonna be chasing your wife with a steel pole in your pants lmao

 

[noodles1010]

But if u are gonna get tbol run that on the front end @ 60mg Ed week 1-4.

 

[stevesmi]

swap your dosages of EQ and test. do 400 test and 600 eq.. or even 250mg test so you aren't doing so much juice.. let the EQ do the job

beast is great kickstart, you don't need the test prop and the headaches associated with it.. i will be running a similar cycle myself later this year.. i won't be bothering with winny though, i just dont like the stuff

EQ i would do 16 weeks, yeah its a long ass cycle but eq really shines later.. its a slow quality gainer so take advantage. i wasn't gonna take EQ but i am due for a long cycle myself so it fits what i want to do perfectly which is slow quality mass gainer with hopefully little sides so i can focus on the gym and not stress out over sides

 

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swap your dosages of EQ and test. do 400 test and 600 eq.. or even 250mg test so you aren't doing so much juice.. let the EQ do the job

beast is great kickstart, you don't need the test prop and the headaches associated with it.. i will be running a similar cycle myself later this year.. i won't be bothering with winny though, i just dont like the stuff

EQ i would do 16 weeks, yeah its a long ass cycle but eq really shines later.. its a slow quality gainer so take advantage. i wasn't gonna take EQ but i am due for a long cycle myself so it fits what i want to do perfectly which is slow quality mass gainer with hopefully little sides so i can focus on the gym and not stress out over sides

Yea I really wanted to hit EQ at 600 but i gotta work with what I got. I took EQ at just 400 for 12 weeks and really liked it but that was 13 years ago LOL.

Ok so thats what i thought about starting with beast thanks

 

[dylangemelli]

bro if you make me a list of everything you have on hand, i will be more than happy to set the entire fucking thing up for you... =)

 

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Ok thought about it and I hate to half ass anything so Im going to order some more EQ so i can run 500mg/wk .

 

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bump for the edits