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Next bulker.

Lupercal CATS

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Ugh I just typed a long post and suddenly all the text just disappeared so because I am lazy I'll post the SHORT version.

I want to run a clean bulker, lean mass, low fat. I want it to be about 10-12 weeks and get quick but lasting results.

Was thinking:

Weeks 1-4: Test prop, about 500mg a week. Winny... i want to do 100mg a week, 50mg didn't do a whole lot for me. I'm also open to other lean mass drugs, ideas?

Weeks 1-10(12): Test E, 500mg a week. I'd also like to run some tren but I'm not sure which kind. I have a run a blend of ace, hex and E before. I'm also open to running EQ but I'm afrid it will take longer than I would like to begin to see results.

I'd like to remain lean and gain good mass and get pretty vascular.

Like I said, my original post just disappeared and I really don't feel like typing it all out. I have run several cycle in the past and am familiar with PCT protocol etc.
 
you want to do winni 100mg a week?

id do somthin' like:

1-12 test e 500mg ew
1-4 d-bol at least 40mg ed
6-12 tren a 75mg ed
8-14 winni 100mg ed

with proper pct it should get you what you want.
 
I have become a big fan of t-bol. You can run that. As 210 said 100mg of winny/wk wont do dick. You really need to run it at 50mg/day. For a 10-12 weeker I would opt for tren over eq for fast keepable results.

maybe
1-10 prop 500mg/wk
1-6 tren
7-10 t-bol 40-60mg/day
 
axe3 said:
I have become a big fan of t-bol. You can run that. As 210 said 100mg of winny/wk wont do dick. You really need to run it at 50mg/day. For a 10-12 weeker I would opt for tren over eq for fast keepable results.

maybe
1-10 prop 500mg/wk
1-6 tren
7-10 t-bol 40-60mg/day

A good buddy of mine runs 100mg winny and swears by it. I have done 50mg and didn't get the results I was expecting.
 
axe3 said:
I have become a big fan of t-bol. You can run that. As 210 said 100mg of winny/wk wont do dick. You really need to run it at 50mg/day. For a 10-12 weeker I would opt for tren over eq for fast keepable results.

maybe
1-10 prop 500mg/wk
1-6 tren
7-10 t-bol 40-60mg/day

BUMP to that, if you want to push it add 400-600mg EQ
 
slyder190 said:
You could run-

Prop@100mgEOD weeks 1-4
Enan@500mg week...weeks 1-10
Winny@50mg/day weeks7-12
Tren@75mg/day weeks 5-12

What's your history?

Ran a bulker 30mg dbol (weeks 1-4) and 500mg test e (weeks 1-10).

I am an extreme ecto and ate whatever I wanted whenever I wanted.

Then ran another bulker, 750mg test, 500mg deca. I had some shit come up in my life about mid cycle and had to stop my cycle about half way.

I had put on some fat from the bulker and a half and am running DNP and yes right now. I am 28 and have NEVER dieted in my life because I have always been thin. I tried several times to cut down with a diet and cardio and some clen. I wasn't able to stick with it so I decided to DNP. I understand that I used DNP out of laziness so I don't need to catch any shit for that. I plan to start my next very clean bulker a little while after I am done with the DNP and YES.
 
axe3 said:
I have become a big fan of t-bol. You can run that. As 210 said 100mg of winny/wk wont do dick. You really need to run it at 50mg/day. For a 10-12 weeker I would opt for tren over eq for fast keepable results.

maybe
1-10 prop 500mg/wk
1-6 tren
7-10 t-bol 40-60mg/day

What kind of tren and at what dosages?

Thanks for the input, K to all.
 
Lupercal CATS said:
A good buddy of mine runs 100mg winny and swears by it. I have done 50mg and didn't get the results I was expecting.


Bro, you mean you ran 50mgs of Winny per day, not week right? If I only ran 50mgs per week I wouldn't expect much either! :worried:
 
growthspurt said:
Bro, you mean you ran 50mgs of Winny per day, not week right? If I only ran 50mgs per week I wouldn't expect much either! :worried:

Hahah yes per day.

Lack of carbs and DNP has me very tired.

I'd like to try 100mg winny per DAY. However I am open to other lean mass drugs, (tbol, var, etc)
 
Lupercal CATS said:
Hahah yes per day.

Lack of carbs and DNP has me very tired.

I'd like to try 100mg winny per DAY. However I am open to other lean mass drugs, (tbol, var, etc)

I guess you could give 100mgs ED a try. Maybe Tbol might be a better choice. Watch your joints @ 100 mgs of Winny though!
 
Lupercal CATS said:
What kind of tren and at what dosages?

Thanks for the input, K to all.

Depends on your tren experience...If you are new i'd do Ace starting @ 75mg eod. The nice thing w/ ace is if you get nasty sides you can discontinue and they go away quickly. If you do enan and you get bad sides you are stuck with 'em for a while. My first experience with tren sucked...I had to discontinue, I vowed to never run it again - I of course tried it again at a lower dose and really, really like it. The most important thing to do is listen to your body.
 
axe3 said:
Depends on your tren experience...If you are new i'd do Ace starting @ 75mg eod. The nice thing w/ ace is if you get nasty sides you can discontinue and they go away quickly. If you do enan and you get bad sides you are stuck with 'em for a while. My first experience with tren sucked...I had to discontinue, I vowed to never run it again - I of course tried it again at a lower dose and really, really like it. The most important thing to do is listen to your body.

I've run tren before, side effect free. Deca does however wreak havoc on my nipples.
 
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