Newbies with DNP questions...

[buckwheat1]

and since when does AAS have anything to do with getting ripped, all it does is maintain muscle mass

Directly it does not do much. If I took AAS and did not work out and I kept kept the same calorie intake, I would probably see very little body composition change.


But, AAS allows more intense and longer work outs. This means more calories burned. Also, AAS builds muscle and muscle burns calories.

My comments about Quad was not so much that AAS is a fat reducing agent but rather he mentioned that he was 215 at 3.4% and he did it without DNP or T3. My assertion is that his body composition would not be achievable without AAS. Sure he could be 3.4% but to do it naturally he probably weight about 180 pounds. Our he could be 215 but his bf might be 15%. AAS allows more muscle and lower bf% to be acheived then if no AAS were used.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Directly it does not do much. If I took AAS and did not work out and I kept kept the same calorie intake, I would probably see very little body composition change.


But, AAS allows more intense and longer work outs. This means more calories burned. Also, AAS builds muscle and muscle burns calories.

My comments about Quad was not so much that AAS is a fat reducing agent but rather he mentioned that he was 215 at 3.4% and he did it without DNP or T3. My assertion is that his body composition would not be achievable without AAS. Sure he could be 3.4% but to do it naturally he probably weight about 180 pounds. Our he could be 215 but his bf might be 15%. AAS allows more muscle and lower bf% to be acheived then if no AAS were used.

Wait, he is what 5'8" or so? Show me a guy who is 5'8" 180 lbs at 3.4% body fat all natural. That is about where needsize is in his avatar. You were what 180 at 4-5% or so for that show right?

 

[needsize]

Wait, he is what 5'8" or so? Show me a guy who is 5'8" 180 lbs at 3.4% body fat all natural. That is about where needsize is in his avatar. You were what 180 at 4-5% or so for that show right?

yup, and I have yet to see anyone look like my avatar without steroids

 

[transformK2]

screw dnp ive done it. its hella not worth it, HARDLY MAGIC. it makes u depressed, tired, HUNGRY, heck shit will make u GAIN WEIGHT. and even if u do stick to a strict diet on it, u wont even lose much weight that u cant lose on a strict diet + cardio without dnp. dont even do cardio on dnp ull risk crashing HYPO, dnp kills ur blood sugar .

and dnp IS CATABOLIC (dont listen to anyone who says otherwise). it burns ur blood sugar FAST ,it makes u dehydrated FAST. it will eat ur muscles up.

lyle mcdonald did a 400mg/day dnp cycle for 5 days. he lost 5lb , 1.8lb of fat, 2lb muscle, 1 lb water. i did dnp and lost "BODY WEIGHT" , fat was impressive. lots of muscle loss and water loss attributed to dehydration regardless of how much u drink water, eat fruits or stay hydrated. ull ge dehydrated. those who tell u u can lose 8lb in 8 days and say its all fat. they are all liars. its mostly water/muscle with some fat. they havent done body TEsts, lyle cmdonald did and it took out lots of muscles.

 

[Optimus B]

A lazy man's (deadman's) cardio. It is not a safe compound, and should not be used inplace of work, diet & cardio.

truer words have not been spoken. personally, i don't think it should be used AT ALL. the margin of error is far too great.

 

[eviction]

Also newbies wanting to gain 'vet' status by using advanced compounds.

didn't you get the memo? if you are on a slin/t3/hgh/DNP combo as a noob you gain all knowing knowledge. and everyone should listen to you after that, becauase you get mad street cred for being such a dopie.

 

[buckwheat1]

screw dnp ive done it. its hella not worth it, HARDLY MAGIC. it makes u depressed, tired, HUNGRY, heck shit will make u GAIN WEIGHT. and even if u do stick to a strict diet on it, u wont even lose much weight that u cant lose on a strict diet + cardio without dnp. dont even do cardio on dnp ull risk crashing HYPO, dnp kills ur blood sugar .

and dnp IS CATABOLIC (dont listen to anyone who says otherwise). it burns ur blood sugar FAST ,it makes u dehydrated FAST. it will eat ur muscles up.

lyle mcdonald did a 400mg/day dnp cycle for 5 days. he lost 5lb , 1.8lb of fat, 2lb muscle, 1 lb water. i did dnp and lost "BODY WEIGHT" , fat was impressive. lots of muscle loss and water loss attributed to dehydration regardless of how much u drink water, eat fruits or stay hydrated. ull ge dehydrated. those who tell u u can lose 8lb in 8 days and say its all fat. they are all liars. its mostly water/muscle with some fat. they havent done body TEsts, lyle cmdonald did and it took out lots of muscles.

I did several cycles. I tried different dosages and timings. For me, it was better to reduce the dose and run it over a longer period of time. I also would take a few days off when I started feeling lethargic. I generally took the dose in the evening so the fat burning would occur at night. During the day I had to work, so I did not want to be sweating at my office.

I think taking the advice to use larger doses for say 7 days, will cause some of the issues you mentioned above. If people want to do it that way then more power to them. I came to the conclusion that I just wanted to raise my metabolism enough so that additional fat would be burned but not too much so that lethargy, dehydration, etc. would set in. Moderate cardio was not an issue and most of the workouts did not suffer.


If I remember right, I was only taking 200mg/day with an occassional 400mg/day on the weekends. I also used 50mcg of T3 a day. Even a 200mg/day it will increase your metabolism much more than ECA or Clen.

 

[wesley90]

Guys, I dunno if this is related, but I did 200mgs for 3 days, and I am 3 days out of it, and my blood pressure is 180/90. This is SERIOUS shit...I just hope its related to the DNP...