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Newbies with DNP questions...

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Ok, I see alot of newbies asking about DNP. How did this can of worms get opened? This compound is NOT for beginiers. Most of the guys asking it are not even close to knowing how to use it properly, or get results on it. This is a very dangerous drug, and if you do not know what you are doing it can kill you. If you do not plan on stepping on stage in the next 8-10 weeks, its not for you.
 
BodyByFinaplix said:
This is a very dangerous drug, and if you do not know what you are doing it can kill you.

it can also kill if you do know what you're doing. takes bigger balls than i've got to do it.
 
TQpew said:
it can also kill if you do know what you're doing. takes bigger balls than i've got to do it.

Right, same here. I've stepped on stage at 4% and have not used it yet.
 
Guys, this is coming from me... a guy who will run tren for 5 months straight, and who usesdt3 on bulking cycles etc. So I'm by no means "afraid of bodybuilding drugs". This shit is not for newbies.
 
I am far from a newbie personally, and from what I thought this site was to educate. By simple saying oh this drug is too advanced or your not experienced enough for it only makes the unexpeirenced that much more curious, especially when you yourself posting the statement is doing it. I have been lifting for a long time and been using for a long time as well. The other day was the first time I had heard of this substance, I was to compete on the 6th but I had a major injury and couldnt finish my cut. I agree with anything caution should be taken and stated, but it should be told exactly what it is how it works and how it should be properly dosed. If not someone who is unadvanced may use it very wrong and occur serious problems. I dont care either way personally but knowledge is power and letting people make their own life decitions is only fair.
 
borg, I said I will not touch it. I'm not convinced there is a safe way to use it. However, what I do see guys considering (200 mg a day) is not going to work for them. It takes a near-toxic dose of this compound to see good results.
 
Nothing ill ever mess with but there are definitally some who will. Hopefully someone will explain this drug in full perspective.
 
Fine will do it myself.

DNP has been around since the turn of the century. Although not used as a diet aid or weight loss supplement to begin with, it was eventually found to be a very effective weight loss drug. It is an industrial chemical first being used to ignite TNT in the 1900's. It has also been used as a bug pesticide (melting the bug from the inside out), fabric dye and then a Stanford University study showed that it caused significant weight loss and has been used for that purpose since the 1930's. Hitler used it in the concentration camps during World War 2 to keep prisoners warm during the winter without the need for heating the buildings.
DNP is a mitochondrial uncoupler of oxidative phosphorylation, boosting the metabolism up to 50% by inhibition of the FOF1 ATP synthesis molecule located in the inner wall of mitochondria. As a result, ATP production is dramatically reduced and the energy is turned into heat. A 30- 50% increase in metabolic rate makes this the 'mother' of all fat burners. Compared to other thermogenic compounds such as ephedrine/aspirin/caffeine (ECA) which has a boost of about 3% and clenbuterol /cytomel which has a boost of about 10%.
Unlike clen/t3 and ECA, DNP won't boost body temperature to the same degree. DNP will only cause an increase of 1-1.5 degree Celsius. DNP competes with the thyroid for carrier proteins. Even though Thyroid Stimulating Hormone (STH) and free thyroid levels maybe normal, they are being excreted instead of being used. To extend the length of a DNP cycle, T3 could be added, but most people don't absorb T3 very well, which causes levels of T3 to become way too high. Therefore, it is ill advised and not recommended. It is better to use it on a rotating 8-day cycle with a 7 day off period. During this 2 week period you will look best on the 14th day after the water being retained is dropped. T3 in the amount of 25-50 mcg per day during the off week will also help restore normal thyroid levels.
The main problem with DNP use is the severity of side effects. Since there are no negative feedback loops to deal with possible overdose, there is no limit to how hot you can make your body. Death is a definite possibility if too much is used. The "more is better"rule does not pertain to this drug. Side effects include insomnia, yellow body fluids (urine, sweat, sperm etc.), muscle soreness (reps during workouts will need to be kept light with at least 15 reps), overheating, carcinogenesis, (although DNP has never been associated with cancer) discomfort, lethargy, sweating, carb cravings, stroke, kidney damage, brain damage, and DEATH. These are all very possible as the lethal dose is only four times that of the normal dose.
This drug is not anorectic so you will be hungry on DNP. Ten percent of some users experience allergic reactions (hives, blisters, rashes etc.) and a .1% of users get cataracts. DNP users will also feel lethargic due to the glucose being transferred into the cells without the use of insulin.
Dosages were put after the side effects because this is a chemical that is not forgiving and it is more important that everyone understands what the side effects are before trying to acquire DNP and use it. Doses range between 2-8mgs/kg of body weight, NOT lean body mass. It's best dosed at 200mgs/d for someone in an active type job (landscaper, construction worker etc.), 400-600mgs/d for most others and only 800mgs/d for the morbidly obese. Although doses at 1gm/d have been used they are not recommend. DNP has an accumulative affect due to its 36-hour half-life. When users don?t feel their body temperature rise, DO NOT INCREASE DOSAGE. 30mg/kg are the lethal dose and are very possible if the dose is above 800mgs/d.
Here are some ideas to try to help users deal with their DNP use. DNP is known to cause an increase of free radicals in the body. To try an combat this effect certain supplements can be used.
Vitamin C: 3000mgs in d/d

Vitamin E: 1200iu in d/d

Magnesium: 1500mgs/d

Dexatrim (or any appetite suppressant)

Glycerol 3tbsp d/d/d
 
I am a newb to chemical enhancement, but I have run 3 days at 200mgs. Oh, throughly researched btw. I have heard crazy things such as it kills the mitochondria in your cells and other unfounded talk. This is all untrue and needs to be addressed. I am in no position to explain how it works exactly, and in fact I dont know everything about it, but from the little expirence I do have is it is individual dependent. Everyone is different and will react different to these substances, so starting slow and seeing what your body can tolerate is the best way to go.
 
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