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Newbies Alert:Dont Do Only Dbol!!!trust Me!!!

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marcboarder

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Hey so all the vets are probably annoyed with everyone asking about Dbol only cycles.. you know why? cuz they are worth the hassle!!! WHY you ask? Well just like most of you newbies reading this, hoping to be able to pop a pill and get roid'ed up, I actually tried this... and well it worked, I got bigger, stronger and kept some gains, but I also got a good amount of water weight, some gyno (even with some anti-e's) which really sucks because gyno comes along with extra fat... and on top of that, my liver was KILLING me, EVEN WITH taking to different liver supps one with grips of milk thistle.
Question is? is there an oral cycle that will give me what i'm looking for?
Answer? unless its cutting and/or fat loss with clen and or winstrol...NO so please take my word and buck up and shoot the darts, thats what i'm going to do and REALLY wish i would have done.
 
Good honest post. Sorry you had to learn the hard way bro. Maybe someone will be spared though from your experience.
 
MR. BMJ said:
How do you guys feel your liver hurting?

BMJ
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I think your kidneys would hurt first, then jaundice-but actual liver pain??? Oh well-whatever. As long as it discourages dbol only posts I'm good.
 
MR. BMJ said:
How do you guys feel your liver hurting?

BMJ
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i have felt something "fluttering" before just under my pec behind upper rib cage. My anatomy sucks but it was my first time on winny so I was guessing kidneys/liver
 
BigCracker said:
Max Velocity Penis Stroke???
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HAHA...I think im a do a nice basic first cycle at 10 weeks with just test e at 500 mg a week. seems simple and not such a high dose ill get fucked up. maybe other newbies should focus on that basic cycle to see how their body will react? too many drugs in ya you might not know what is causing what. just a thought
 
How do you guys feel your liver hurting?
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I don’t know, you can feel your kidneys I think, but easily confused with simple lower back pain

The Liver is sort of behind your stomach,


I never felt pains, but was given the results of a blood test by my GP

Had slight liver damage.
 
Hybridtheory2o said:
HAHA...I think im a do a nice basic first cycle at 10 weeks with just test e at 500 mg a week. seems simple and not such a high dose ill get fucked up. maybe other newbies should focus on that basic cycle to see how their body will react? too many drugs in ya you might not know what is causing what. just a thought
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Finally someone that listens to reason!!! You won't be disappointed if you start off this way instead of like these newbs that think they're going to reinvent the wheel by pounding mega mgs of multiple compounds 1st run. Everybody is so fucking anxious. Learn to train and diet natty, educate yourself on AS, then start off using them correctly and conservatively by following the advice of reputable sources of 411-not just waiting for the advice that you want to hear so you can justify doing your own thing anyway. K to you for me not having to sound the retard alert.
 
You should have asked! We would have told you that. That way when you did not listen we could say we told you so. This just takes a little wind out of our sail! :(
 
My weiner hurts. Is it the AS or the chronic masturbation 2000 mgs of test/wk causes that makes it sore and look like a bicycle grip?
 
BigCracker said:
My weiner hurts. Is it the AS or the chronic masturbation 2000 mgs of test/wk causes that makes it sore and look like a bicycle grip?
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Its the calusses on your hands. Try using workout gloves!
 
Just a suggestion: with all the choices of injectables why do orals at all? Jump start - use test prop. I do not use orals at all. If I where to add them to a cycle, I would only consider var or proviron. I might even consider Andriol (testosterone undecanoate) but most of the info I have on it says it lacks price/performance - bang for your buck.
 
i dont think oral-only is as bad as everyone cracks it up to be. would i include test if given a choice - absolutely. but to say that you wont keep any gains and you're hurting yourself more than helping is kind of ridiculous. jenetic started a really good thread a while back where he posited that an 8-12 week dbol cycle with the proper liver supps would produce some solid gains.

i think the bad rap comes from the younger noobs. noobs are much more prone to do an oral only cycle, because they are either afraid of needles, or are too piss poor to buy injectables. in any event, the noobs wil most likely not know how to train or eat properly, and have no clue what pct is. that's where the reputation comes from. i think if done correctly, and i mean proper diet, training, and pct, an oral-only has its place. again, i personally wouldn't encourage everyone to do one, but at the same time, i wouldnt discourage it. i know a few bros who have done dbol/winny cycles and saw some good gains (not great), and were able to keep it all, with minimum sides.
 
The liver is to your right hand side of the solar plexus up underneath the ribcage. If you get punched there with a left rip you'll know about it :) . If I go for a run a couple of days after a night of heavy drinking I get pains in my liver. :worried:

How long did you run dbol for to get liver pains?
 
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