Newbie Sus 250 Cycle

[WildGuy09]

Im a newbie to using gear, and have 16 amps of Sustanon 250. Im planning on doing a six week 500mg/wk cycle. Ive also read cycles for sus that recommend ending the a cycle with Clomid. I dont really know too much about Clomid though, and dont really know how necessary it is. If anybody can help me out with some info on Clomid, and maybe let me know if my cycle sounds alright id appreciate it!

 

[jubei]

Where to start...

 

[WildGuy09]

Burn me man, just give me some info

 

[DocHoliday]

Burn me man, just give me some info

 

[40butpumpin]

what's your training history, stats? it sounds like you do not know much about aas use but i know everyone is a newbie at some point. nevertheless, i suggest you start reading and educating yourself. nothing wrong with sust, i love it personally. some use clomid post cycle, others don't. if you bloat, use an anti-e such as arimidex, aromasin during cycle. if your nuts begin to shrink, use hcg both during and post cycle. that's a start, now get reading. i'd really like to know your training history and stats though. good luck to you either way.

 

[BigB_79]

...Ive also read cycles for sus that recommend ending the a cycle with Clomid. I dont really know too much about Clomid though...

I've also heard that if you lift weights while on cycle, your gains will be better, but I dont know much about that.

 

[dali]

16 amps will last 8 wks bro. 6wks is a waste for a first cycle, you'd be better off getting some more gear and do a 10-12 wkr.

regards

 

[WildGuy09]

Yeah, sorry, was thinking 8 weeks, typed 6. Im a college athlete, and have been strength training for about 7 years now. Usually lift four days a week (2 lower and 2 upper) and do speed work 2 times a week also. Not worried about conditioning right now, so that really isnt a factor. Just looking for strength and speed. Ive read cycles with sus that recommend for beginners to do week one with 250mg then weeks 2-5 with 500mg then a fifth week with 250mg again, followed by 3 weeks of clomid. But from what ive been reading, this doesnt sound very strong. Thats why i wanted to go the eight weeks with 500mg/wk. Do i need to have a beginning and end week where i only do 250? Ive read that tapering off is a completely bogus practice, and doesnt help one bit. I experimented last year with some gear for the first time, but didnt really know what i was doing, so this year im trying to do it right.

 

[40butpumpin]

don't taper up or down, just go with the 500mg and follow my original post for ancillaries. get your hands on some hcg though, that's good stuff to have on hand.

 

[BIC]

fuck all you flamers and help the guy

2 weeks after your last shot of sust start pct ( post cycle theripy)

day one 300mg clomid
day two 200 mg clomid
day three 100 mg clomid

then 50mg a day for two weeks......

you start two week after because with the sust you will still be shut down to much cuz its a slow taper.

 

[WildGuy09]

Thanks alot 40butpumpin and BIC i appreciate the help. Gonna try and get my hands on some Clomid and go with the above mentioned pct. Another question for 40butpumpin though, what is hcg and what does it do? I think ive heard of it before but dont know anything about it.

 

[BIC]

unless some one can tell us different,,,
the only use ive hered of hcg mid cycle is to keep your nuts pumped up but i dont THINK it stopes you from being shut down,,,and again i could be wrong but i always thought once your shut down your shut down....till the end of the cycle..

can any one confirm my bable??

 

[WildGuy09]

BIC, can you direct me to anywhere where i can get Clomid? The only site i know of is PowerNutrition.net, but thats not in tabs, its in serum. So if you can help me out again id appreciate it.

 

[Clean]

fuck all you flamers and help the guy

No one really flamed him you idiot. I did not see any negative comments anywhere except stating that he should read more and that this is a typical newb question.

 

[TheRide]

If you want to do it right then surt the boards and READ!!! There is a lot of info here. Hang out, contribute, educate yourself. It amazes me that people spend so much time researching what car to buy or DVD to rent but spend little time looking into something that they are going to inject/swallow into their bodies!!

Sorry man, don't mean to blast you but I've been seeing too many posts like this lately - it's concerning me that some many people (mostly kids) are simply "juicing" and have NO CLUE what they are doing...

 

[TheRide]

BIC, can you direct me to anywhere where i can get Clomid? The only site i know of is PowerNutrition.net, but thats not in tabs, its in serum. So if you can help me out again id appreciate it.

Dancing the line on this being a source post....

 

[lartinos]

16 amps will last 8 wks bro. 6wks is a waste for a first cycle, you'd be better off getting some more gear and do a 10-12 wkr.

regards

8 weeks isn't a waste, 10 weeks would just be better

 

[sh4dowf4lcon]

what's your training history, stats? it sounds like you do not know much about aas use but i know everyone is a newbie at some point. nevertheless, i suggest you start reading and educating yourself. nothing wrong with sust, i love it personally. some use clomid post cycle, others don't. if you bloat, use an anti-e such as arimidex, aromasin during cycle. if your nuts begin to shrink, use hcg both during and post cycle. that's a start, now get reading. i'd really like to know your training history and stats though. good luck to you either way.

I just wanted to follow up 40BP with the Aromasin suggestion. Definately get your hands on this as it is the best anti-e. it will cost more but it is worth it.

 

[WildGuy09]

I realize that most everyone here has experience and the drive to research the hell out of this stuff while their using it or in preperation to use it. But in NCAA you cant really use this stuff regularly(and by regularly i mean 3/4 out of the year you cant), so im not as familiar with it as most of you. I appreciate the advice to research this stuff, and trust me, i have, but part of the reason im posting on this forum is to get even more info, so bare with me, im just trying to get some help.

 

[WildGuy09]

Also, I read that, "In most cases Clomid can normalize the tes-tosterone level and the spermatogenesis (sperm development) within 10-14 days." Does this affect the 6:1 ratio of testosterone in your blood in anyway, i guess the more direct question is, is there a detection time for this substance?

 

[TheRide]

I realize that most everyone here has experience and the drive to research the hell out of this stuff while their using it or in preperation to use it. But in NCAA you cant really use this stuff regularly(and by regularly i mean 3/4 out of the year you cant), so im not as familiar with it as most of you. I appreciate the advice to research this stuff, and trust me, i have, but part of the reason im posting on this forum is to get even more info, so bare with me, im just trying to get some help.

WildGuy, I kicked you some Karma for this. It was a educated reply and unlike the norm here, you didn't blow up telling everyoen to fo f-themselves. Anyway, Have your tried the plat seach feature. You can pull up some good info with that.

Hit the sust @ 500 for 8 weeks... in terms of Clomid, I'm not a good source of info on it. But their are plenty of guys here that are. I do know that you should wait 10-12 days after your last shot before starting clomid and the doasges get gradually lower throughout the therepy.

Someone help the kid out of dosage/duration. I'm not the PCT expert.

 

[BigB_79]

Clomid's sides suck ass, but it works. My wife almost left me because I was such a dick while on clomid, but I got through it. Here's how you should do it.

Day 1 300mg
Day 2-11 100mg
Day 12-21 50mg

 

[WildGuy09]

Thanks for the Karma Ride, and thanks for the suggestion BigB, ive got a couple dif ideas for the PCT all pretty similar, im just worried about the detection times. Im pretty new to all this stuff, last summer was the first time i ever messed around with any gear, and i didnt know what i was doing at all. I did 2cc's/week of winny for 10 weeks. The picture in my gallery is from last summer at the end of my cycle. But anyways like i said, detection times right now are the name of the game for me, but thanks for everybodys help!

 

[jbird]

If you have never done anything before i would just do 250mg a week and do it for 10 weeks.See How you react to this first cycle i gained 15 pounds in 10 weeks on this cycle and my buddy put on 20 pounds with 250mg a week of sust. We were using redijects. MY thought is to use the lowest effective dose. unless you are looking to compete or something