Newbie Question

[bverysmart]

Hey bros

heres my question.

I am starting my first cycle soon

500mg Test E/wk
for 10 wks

I have clomid for PCT
I plan on 50mg/ed for 2wks

Do I need to have soemthing else during my cycle. I have read people taking other things to control estrogen while on cycle.

I was under the understanding that Nolva nad Clomid were only used as a PCT not during cycle because they are counterprodcutive to gains.

Please help me out.

If there is something else I need please tell me what and how much.

Thanks Bros

bverysmart

 

[cranny]

It would be a good idea to have some nolva incase you see signs of gyno while you're on. Wouldn't hurt to throw it in as well as the clomid you have for PCT.

 

[bverysmart]

It would be a good idea to have some nolva incase you see signs of gyno while you're on. Wouldn't hurt to throw it in as well as the clomid you have for PCT.

So only take Nolva if I get Gyno. I need nothing else during the actual cycle to control estrogen?

 

[swordfish151]

So only take Nolva if I get Gyno. I need nothing else during the actual cycle to control estrogen?

with 500mgs a week your going to want to have nolva on hand in case of gyno and you could run nolva/clomid and deff HCG for PCT...you can run nolva during if you do get gyno symptoms AND for PCT as well....a-dex will help during your cycle to reduce bloat.

 

[bverysmart]

with 500mgs a week your going to want to have nolva on hand in case of gyno and you could run nolva/clomid and deff HCG for PCT...you can run nolva during if you do get gyno symptoms AND for PCT as well....a-dex will help during your cycle to reduce bloat.

what is deff HCG and a-dex?

sorry for dumb questions, but again I want to make sure I have everything needed before I start my cycle.

Let me know Bro


bverysmart

 

[ElMatador]

HCG (Pregnyl) is product you need for your PCT...there are amps of 1,500IU or 5,000IU and solvent.

 

[Neo22]

Hey bros

heres my question.

I am starting my first cycle soon

500mg Test E/wk
for 10 wks

I have clomid for PCT
I plan on 50mg/ed for 2wks

Do I need to have soemthing else during my cycle. I have read people taking other things to control estrogen while on cycle.

I was under the understanding that Nolva nad Clomid were only used as a PCT not during cycle because they are counterprodcutive to gains.

Please help me out.

If there is something else I need please tell me what and how much.

Thanks Bros

bverysmart

50mg of clomid ED is not near enough for pct. Throw in some hcg also.

 

[Juiced]

I would def get some HCG for your PCT to add with the clomid, I would say get 30,000 ius to be on the safe side, and inject 500ius ed for 3 weeks along with 100mg of clomid ED for the first 3 weeks and 50mg ed of clomid 3 weeks after that is what I would do. I would say take 10mg of nolva ed or even eod while on your cycle to help with bloat and any sides you may get, although 500mg of Ent is keeping it on the safer side I really cant imagine you getting too bad sides to where you would need any more nolva than that, unless you are one of the few who are very very sensitive to estrogen.

 

[drrman]

no need to take the nolva right off the bad ED during the cycle, just have it on hand in case gyno symptoms start....i would get some arimidex and take 1mg/day from the get go, you may have to up it also, but that should work....the arimidex will keep the water off for the most part

 

[bverysmart]

Arimidex? is this soley for bloating. This is not used to control estrogen.

I know that too much estrogen can cause bloating and water retention alow with possibility of gyno.

I am using liquid clomid for PCT but getting other things seems to be hard. I can get liqud Nolva as well but do not have anything else.

Please advise

Thanks

bverysmart

 

[bigmouth2006]

Arimidex? is this soley for bloating. This is not used to control estrogen.


Please advise

Thanks

bverysmart

arimidex controls water retention,estrogen related fat, gyno, acne(for me anyway),keeps natural test from shutting down completely etc,etc...

 

[bverysmart]

arimidex controls water retention,estrogen related fat, gyno, acne(for me anyway),keeps natural test from shutting down completely etc,etc...

Thanks bigmouth, ths the info I needed. Is arimidex easy to get. Is it legally obtained.

 

[drrman]

Thanks bigmouth, ths the info I needed. Is arimidex easy to get. Is it legally obtained.

its not scheduled no, plenty of sites sell it in liquid form, AG guys a board sponsor here has it also. liquidex it is called

 

[BigCracker]

with 500mgs a week your going to want to have nolva on hand in case of gyno and you could run nolva/clomid and deff HCG for PCT...you can run nolva during if you do get gyno symptoms AND for PCT as well....a-dex will help during your cycle to reduce bloat.

What he said.

 

[bverysmart]

so let me get this right, the liquidex should be used while on cycle.

You shoot it? how much?

 

[drrman]

so let me get this right, the liquidex should be used while on cycle.

You shoot it? how much?

NO do NOT shoot liquidex, you take it orally

 

[bverysmart]

NO do NOT shoot liquidex, you take it orally

Thanks bro

thats what I needed to know.

I appreciate it.

 

[Apexx]

arimadex.......keeps natural test from shutting down completely etc,etc...

Wow, I did not know that. How about you send me some info on that.

 

[mlong23]

You should be fine at 500mgs of test unless you are prone to gyno. You won't know that since this is your first cycle.

To be safe you could always run 250 a week for the first few weeks and if you feel fine, then bump it up to 500. Personally I would throw in some dbol for about 3-4 weeks so that you can jumpstart your gains. You won't notice anything until 2-3 weeks with test e.

HCG is probably the best, but that doesn't mean you have to have it. Up your dosage to about 100-150 of the clomid for the first few days and then drop it down to 50 and you should be fine.

 

[bigmouth2006]

Wow, I did not know that. How about you send me some info on that.

look at the AG-guys report card plus from my own experences i have cycled with and without it and recover alot better with it as far as weight loss and strenght i run all the way through my pct

 

[Neo22]

look at the AG-guys report card plus from my own experences i have cycled with and without it and recover alot better with it as far as weight loss and strenght i run all the way through my pct

Unless you have bloodwork you really can't make that statement.

 

[bigmouth2006]

Unless you have bloodwork you really can't make that statement.

i don't have bloodwork proof but i know my body and don't loose near the nut size and i don't crash off a cycle like i did without it with having said that i would it keeps me form shutting down as hard