Newbie needs help

[WyreD]

Hey, I'm thinking about starting up and was wondering what one you guys recommend starting off with, my goal is to cut fat and gain muscle if possible. I heard Tren is good for this, what do you guys think? I'm also doing cardio and sticking to a strict diet so I don't need to hear that's all you need...Any help would be appreciated, thanks.

My stats are
Height: 6'2
Age: 21
Weight: 210 pounds

 

[blue_steel74]

Trens great, but i would run a test base with it. Anavar is really good for cutting, and its not too toxic on the liver either. Winni is good also, but fairly liver toxic though. And a lot of people like EQ for cutting, but i tried that and wasnt impressed with it by itself

 

[WyreD]

Okay, so you would recommend anavar over tren? Is this taken orally? Also how much should I take and what cycle should I follow?

 

[kc17]

Hey, I'm thinking about starting up and was wondering what one you guys recommend starting off with, my goal is to cut fat and gain muscle if possible. I heard Tren is good for this, what do you guys think? I'm also doing cardio and sticking to a strict diet so I don't need to hear that's all you need...Any help would be appreciated, thanks.

My stats are
Height: 6'2
Age: 21
Weight: 210 pounds

Save the tren for now don't make ur 1st cycle hard on ur self, Tren is King of AAS but it comes with too many sides , get ur feet wet with some test to help u keep ur muscles while u cut and as u already know your diet will dictate most of ur results.

 

[Faststangxxx]

Use the search function or google. Come back when you have some done that. I would say you are too young anyways...

 

[zedhed]

At 6'2" and 210 how much fat you have to loose? To me that sounds kinda thin....
My advice to you would to be to study long and hard and then come back and talk cycles.
For your first cycle you are listening to someone else that is telling you to start with Tren. That shows us right there that you really have not studied this at all.
Remember bro this is something that you are putting into your body. Theses are very strong compounds and they can have really good effects and they can have really bad effects too if you dont know what you are dioing.
Also you make no mention at all of PCT. Bro PCT is every bit as important as the cycle is itself.

At your current size and expereince I would tell you this, Workout on structured routines for a year or two. Learn about diet and expermint with that. You really will be surprized at just how far you can go with just that.
You have all the rest of your life to expermint with AAS. But first you need to learn what you doing to your body and how these compounds work, what they do and how they do it.
I sincerly hope you take this advice because if you dont you simply will not have a good cycle and thats a fact.
All the info that you need is right here on EF.. So use it to your advantage and dont be afraid to ask questions.
BTW your friend that suggested you use Tren......I would find a new friend cuz he does not have your best intrest in his mind at all.
Good luck and I hope to see you asking questions.

 

[johnnyrockit8665]

At 6'2" and 210 how much fat you have to loose? To me that sounds kinda thin....
My advice to you would to be to study long and hard and then come back and talk cycles.
For your first cycle you are listening to someone else that is telling you to start with Tren. That shows us right there that you really have not studied this at all.
Remember bro this is something that you are putting into your body. Theses are very strong compounds and they can have really good effects and they can have really bad effects too if you dont know what you are dioing.
Also you make no mention at all of PCT. Bro PCT is every bit as important as the cycle is itself.

At your current size and expereince I would tell you this, Workout on structured routines for a year or two. Learn about diet and expermint with that. You really will be surprized at just how far you can go with just that.
You have all the rest of your life to expermint with AAS. But first you need to learn what you doing to your body and how these compounds work, what they do and how they do it.
I sincerly hope you take this advice because if you dont you simply will not have a good cycle and thats a fact.
All the info that you need is right here on EF.. So use it to your advantage and dont be afraid to ask questions.
BTW your friend that suggested you use Tren......I would find a new friend cuz he does not have your best intrest in his mind at all.
Good luck and I hope to see you asking questions.

Listen to Zed bro.

 

[blue_steel74]

I recommend anavar over tren, for YOU, not product to product. But like these guys have said, trens very hard on the body and not ideal for a first cycle. And dosage for anavar, id start with 20mg a day and increase from there if you need to

 

[Hawkins989]

If you don't know if anavar is an oral steroid or not then i suggest you do some research before even thinking about using AAS, thats my honest opinion.

 

[bren565]

Okay, so you would recommend anavar over tren? Is this taken orally? Also how much should I take and what cycle should I follow?

because of this answer

do more research.

not ment to be rude , the fact ud even suggest you might take tren orally scares me. haha. try your best to figure out what will give you a good experience, not try and swing for the fences your first time.

 

[WyreD]

Thanks for the help guys, I appreciate it. I'll just work on my routine and gain muscle the good old fashion way I go to Gym and do Muay Thai so this should really help me lose weight and gain the muscle needed, just looking for a faster way like everyone else. Thanks for help. And Bren I meant take Anavar orally, I'm new to this but not a complete retard ^^;.

 

[thecompound]

Need to do your hw bra, getting yourself into something that is serious and is not just protein powder and poppin herbal test boosters, as for tren and what not dont even think about it till you understand the concept of things and have about 4 cycles under your belt

 

[zedhed]

Thanks for the help guys, I appreciate it. I'll just work on my routine and gain muscle the good old fashion way I go to Gym and do Muay Thai so this should really help me lose weight and gain the muscle needed, just looking for a faster way like everyone else. Thanks for help. And Bren I meant take Anavar orally, I'm new to this but not a complete retard ^^;.

Wise decision bro! Congrats on making the right decision for you. My hat off to you bro and Karma to you for listening to good advice.
Good luck and keep posting!

 

[thecompound]

I'm a newbie as well. I'm in need of some serious advice. I'm looking to take eq and winny
500mg of eq per week and 50mg oral winny per day. Cycle of eq for 10 and winny for 6 weeks.
I never lifted weights or work out efficiently day of my life. I'm looking to loose fat and maintain muscle. My diet is pretty much restricted because i had the bypass surgery. I each well. Salads, fruit, nothing fried, all lean meat. My stats are: Age: 30, Height: 6''3, Weight 315, bmi 40%. I need help? What should I do

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[blue_steel74]

I'm a newbie as well. I'm in need of some serious advice. I'm looking to take eq and winny
500mg of eq per week and 50mg oral winny per day. Cycle of eq for 10 and winny for 6 weeks.
I never lifted weights or work out efficiently day of my life. I'm looking to loose fat and maintain muscle. My diet is pretty much restricted because i had the bypass surgery. I each well. Salads, fruit, nothing fried, all lean meat. My stats are: Age: 30, Height: 6''3, Weight 315, bmi 40%. I need help? What should I do

Man, i recently ran the same cycle and i wasnt impressed at all. I mean, the winni did its job, but as for the EQ, i wasnt impressed with it bein ran without test. And i didnt notice anything from it til about 8 weeks in. And i kw for a fact that it was legit

 

[ishaq]

anavar is just as toxic as winny and reaks havoc with your lipids thats bad advice, everything you take and put into your body is going to effect you in either a good way or a bad way, best thing to do is READ and LEARN soak in every bit of information you possibly can about diet,nutrition,supplementation and then steroids, learn how to train and eat and the world of bodybuilding will be your oyster, youll be able to bulk cut lean out just of your own knowledge! look into proper supplemntation and diet creatine amino acids protien shakes weight gainer shakes, good luck mate

 

[kc17]

Man, i recently ran the same cycle and i wasnt impressed at all. I mean, the winni did its job, but as for the EQ, i wasnt impressed with it bein ran without test. And i didnt notice anything from it til about 8 weeks in. And i kw for a fact that it was legit

you qill see EQ results around wk 8th thats why most eq cycles are longger than the avg cycle.