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Hello Guys, Well I just want to say that Iam a newbie to this forum and just started my 1st cycle of winny with clen.

Let me give you some history on my self 1st. I was a big work out buff back in college never did any roids but back then I had all the natural hormones and had a great physique, cut up and good size for my height. Iam 5'4" and back then weighed a very lean 150 while benching a bit over 320.

Back then I was eating like an animal and wouldnt gain fat just muscle. I graduated started working and got a steady girlfriend. All of a sudden got lazy and couldnt find time for the gym but kept eating like I was training. Gained over 70lbs of weight over 5 years.

One day I looked at my self in the mirror and was just ashamed for letting my self go and decided I needed a change. So I hit the gym again. I have lost 50lbs since January and I havent been able to shed the rest. I guess my body hit a wall at 180. So I decided to pick things up a bit and Iam taking winny at 300mg/week and clenbuterol at 100mcg/day with a 1600 calorie very high protein diet. I have been doing this for a week and I have dropped a fast 5lbs of weight and I have noticed a leaner more muscular.

Well now let me get to the reason of my post. I have been injecting winny at 1cc-50mg/day and started injecting in my tricep alternating every other day. On my 5th tricep shot I missed the muscle cause I was rushed and as I pulled out the needle some white liquid came out. Oh boy was I in major pain that afternoon. My arm got swollen up and and turned red. The swelling has gone down considerably since then but I dont want to shoot that arm again for another few days. The 6th shot wat the other tricep, no problems. So this morning on my seventh day I went for my quad. Flexed the quad to make sure I wouldnt miss it stuck it in definetely got the muscle but now Iam having major muscle soreness in my quad. The sorenes is nothing like the regular soreness that I experieced in my tricep muscles.

I need some tips to for stinking my self. Is the muscle supposed to be flexed for the shot or relaxed. What other alternative areas can I use that wont hurt as much. I understand winny is water based so Iam always going to have soreness I just want to try and minimize it.

Any sugestions?

Thanks.
 
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I would suggest you stop injecting in your tri's. Do not flex any muscle when you are injecting. If it is in your thigh you need to keep it relaxed. Sit with you feet up on the couch and your leg laying straight. I hope you do not get an abcess from the tri injection. Site injecting water based steroids is a very risky activity. You have veins back there you know. If you are still swolen look up some of my past on what to do.
 
Here is an old past that may help

Here is the thing with the abcesses. When you stay on a long cycle you can greatly reduce your white blood cell count. Thus, increasing your chance of infection because the body fights them off with white cells. I have had three abcesses so my knowledge of this came at a painful price. I have one very bad scar on my thigh. That one had over 300 ccs of puss that had to be removed. It was the size of a grapefruit. Now the intial swelling can often be caused by the body reacting to benzyl alcohol. This swelling may disipate. If it does disipate watch for a small hard spot in the area. Keep watch to see if it increases in size. If it does start to get bigger it will grow exponentially and in a week you could be in the same boat as me. If the redness stays and it is hot to the touch for more than 5 days, I would get a dr. to look at it. If you have to do that be sure to tell them it is an injection site and you are on juice. Don't make them figure it out.

To give you some comfort, I should tell you that I have had maybe a hundred or so injections that swelled up terribly and were very sore. Of those three turned into abcesses. All my abcesses were from winstrol which is water based and this increases the posibility for such an ailment.

I have found a way to make the swolen injection site(non abcess) decrease and reduce the pain. Ice pack for 45 mins and then heat pad for 45 mins. Do this repition at least three times. This has worked for many of my cohorts in the same situation

Wish you the best of luck with this.

DM
 
Hey thanks for the help,

Wow that is scary, I think Iam safe as far as an abcess. The area is red and warm but the pain and swelling are going away. So I dont think I will need medical attention. What exactly causes an abcess and how can I reduce the chances of it.

Why is the tri not a good place for injection? Where would be the best place for winny? Plus I have to shoot allot where else can I go iam going to run out of places. Please be as elaborate as possible.

I tried usig the search but it keeps taking me out to google and unrelated items.
 
if you are going to use clen
reccomend at least 3-5 grams taurine, though people often take up to 10g
potassium and magnesium are also reccomended
as well as AT least 2 grams of ALCAR (protect cardiac tissue).


ALCAR

Taurine


Taurine for cramping and energy depletion.
Alcar because its protective of cardiac (heart) tissue, which clen places strain on and may cause apoptosis (cell death) in at moderate to high doses (1mcg/kg- at least in animal models).

potassium for cramping and performance
magnesium for cramping, heart function, and strength

(as a side note- clen depletes taurine, potassium and magnesium)

also you may want to consider cardio breeze or thermorexin as both a thermo cycling agent as well as to combat lethargy when on clen (so basically as a base with clen as rotated in addition)
 
man you must be a pretty tough customer to be injecting winny into your tri's haha.. i would advise glutes quads and maybe shoulders. otherwise you seem to be making good progress just eat right and hit the cardio hard.. keep workin hard bro
 
Drink the winny? Are you guys serious. Is it as effective as injection cause I dont mind the pain if I inject it right. I just have to make sure the pin is all the way in and I aspirate. I wasnt doing that b4 and I missed a muscle in my left arm so all the water was stuck in a ball their a few days. Arms allot better now swelling went down, little painful to the touch but Iam sure it will go away in a few more days. I started pinching my biceps and the pain isnt as bad as my quad. I was limping around a few days from my quad soreness.

From my experience the tricep is the least painfull then bicep. I was shooting my tricep right at the tip of the triangle when I flex my muscle place the pin release the muscle and insert. The pain was minimal and it would fully disipate within 24 hours. The bicep would get very sore after 8 hours of injection but after 24hours just felt a little tight. The quad was a killer 8 hours and I was limping after 24 hours I was still limping after 48 hours it was still sore but atleast I can walk normal again.

As far as my results I have lost 8lbs on the scale and Iam noticing a hint of my abs starting to peek through. I still want to drop about 15 more pounds of fat and maybe ad 6-10 pounds of muscle.

Thanks for the advice guys, just let me know how effective drinking the winny really is?
 
sorry to butt in guys!!!!anyone run eq by itself????or tried turnabol???would luv 2 know wot ur xperiences have been.
 
I have run them both. I liked the turnabol as it put about 5 lbs on an old juice head and hardened me up nicely. I never really had much success with eq but I did not 600mgs a wk like many say to do.
waseem said:
sorry to butt in guys!!!!anyone run eq by itself????or tried turnabol???would luv 2 know wot ur xperiences have been.
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