Newbie looking for advice.

[wanas]

Hi guys ,Ive been reading the forum for a while now and have decided to take the plunge into trying my 1st cycle ,I would be greatful of any advice from you all.

34 yrs old
6'5" tall
200 lbs
unsure of bodyfat but very low
training for 4 1/2 yrs with small breaks in between
good diet , around 4000 / 4500 cals ed , around 300g protein ed
train 4 days per week split into 2 body parts ed.

I started at around 155lbs in the beginning and although i have been happy with small gains I havnt increased in size or strength for the last year, tried upping my cals but just started to get a bigger waist!!!

I have available to me :-

deca
sustanon 250
winstrol
clomid and nolvadex

could somebody please tell me how to put these together , amounts, timing etc

Thanks in advance for your help.

 

[Papa Lion]

with your current options I'd go with sust most definitely and only sust as it's your first cycle and you don't need more than one med!! go with 500 mg pw for ten weeks you should also I prefer a clomid/nolva pct as it gave me the gain retention post cycle, you will also need hcg and prefereably some other anti-e to run alongside your cycle such as a-dex/letro I like to use proviron between last injection and pct for the few days I run hcg and also the few days after while awaiting pct, good luck bro!!

~Papa Lion~

 

[wanas]

Thanx Papa lion.

Thanks for the response.

Hcg is something that I havnt much knowledge on ,what dosages and timings would i use? also , am i right in saying that it is injected under the skin of the lower abdoman?

 

[Nelson Montana]

Ask 20 people -- you'll get 20 different responses.

First cycle? I'd say 250 mgs of sus a week and 20 mgs of winstrol for 4 weeks. No clomid. No nolva.

 

[tin2]

*Start with one compound at a time (test 8-10wk)
*Use anti-estrogens throughout
*Nolvadex on hand for gyno
*Proper PCT (HCG/Clomid)
*Make sure you have all your compounds before starting

good luck


just hit up the sust for 8 - 10 weeks have an anti-e on hand like arimidex/aromasin and finish off with a PCT .. HCG/clomid , clomid has some bad depression , some ppl can take it some ppl can't. Also you should have Nolvadex on hand incase you get gyno.. These are the basics so start with that..

 

[Nelson Montana]

You can not get gyno from winstrol so it's pointless to use Nolvadex which will just lessen your gains.

 

[xrsist]

bro use the sustanon 250 or 500 mg a week (your choice) for 10 weeks, my first cycle was 250 a week for 10, gained 8kgs n kept them all. seeing its yr first cycle i wouldnt stress using HCG unless your balls do start to shrink. start clomid 2 weeks after last shot of sust at 50mg a day for 21-30 days, eat everything and train hard.

 

[wanas]

Thanx guys, your info is much appreciated. looks like im gonna do a 10 week sust cycle at 500 ew. then a pct using clomid.

Keep the info coming guys if anyone else wants to chip in ,its all good info for me.

i'm going to start next week and will keep you posted on my progress.

thanks again

 

[INNOCENT]

best of luck on cycle, and keep us posted on how it goes