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luke@york

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Hi
im after some advice on a cycle, that will not make me look bloated or give me moon face! my stats are im 25 (26 on wednesday), 5 foot 9 inches 17stone 7 pounds with a 47 inch chest, im heavey set with broad shoulders, ill be honest i am over weight i seem to carry my weight on my belly homer simpson styleee LOL but i am addressing my weight with more constant cardio as well as upping my reps and lowering my rest periods in the gym, and a change in my diet has already started im eating clean foods now not just junk.

i have already had hgh which i loved except the feeling tired i did that for just over a month and know it changed the way i look slightly (ppl who i dont see often comented) i was using 4iu's every other day and injecting in my belly which started to reduce in size after a couple of weeks, so i will be buying a few boxes to start this again with the notion of carrying on for as long as i can afford it, more than likely for around six months, but what would i use along with hgh to make me bigger and leaner i realise diet will play a large part in this but every little helps (quality muscle dont want water retention ) ive tried clen before as well for over a month but had to stop as it didnt agree with me at all, made me feel like shit

i idealy dont want to be injecting myself with lots of different stuff and i have puffy nipples anyway so think i may be gyno sensitive, so i thought 50mg winny tabs every day(cos i know they wont give me gyno) would be good for shedding a bit of fat and adding a small amout of muscle, would you reccomend anything else or something better to take instead of winny, also if you think i should add anything else please let me know what PCT you would reccomend as i want to keep hold of as much as i can afterwards, also am i right in thinking if i take steriods along with hgh the gains are much easier to keep hold of after you stop the steriods?

i train 3-4 times a week focusing on compound exercises my best friend used to be a personal trainer so i have the routines pretty much nailed and when i need a new one i just go see him i already have many kilos of protien shake waiting to be used and plan on having one in the morning with breakfast and one after the gym i usually go on an evening as it makes me sleep better (like a baby, and i know you grow when you sleep).

also just so you know i dont really wanna take something that will give me a massive amout of size in say a few weeks as everyone will know im juicing, which is not good as many ppl have small minds these days, so the doses i will need will probally only be low, but since ive only done a cycle of hgh with a bit of clen and winny after that i think i will be quite receptive anyway?

i know this is a long post but wanted to give you fellas and ladies as much info as possible if ive missed anything just let me know
many thanks for your patience and im looking forward to learning of you guys

lukey :rolleyes:
 
how long have your been working out for homer? 3 day a week is not enough.. get to the gym 5 times a week. keep eating clean and get bf down more before starting a cycle. im hoping that you've been lifting for at least 3-4 years. if so test is a good cycle. little if any sides and it will give u good size.. can run winny last few weeks of the cycle.
 
sweed said:
how long have your been working out for homer? 3 day a week is not enough.. get to the gym 5 times a week. keep eating clean and get bf down more before starting a cycle. im hoping that you've been lifting for at least 3-4 years. if so test is a good cycle. little if any sides and it will give u good size.. can run winny last few weeks of the cycle.

Sweed - I can't believe you changed your avi. Put that girl back up. I love her.
 
One quick thing bro. How much is a stone. I understand that it is a british term of weight, but how many pounds are in a stone?
 
lol homer DOH that ones gonna come back and back to haunt me, might have to edit the original post.

been training for approx two years, the lightest iv every been is 15 and a half stone when i was 21 and that was after months on SLIMFAST with lots of cardio which im not willing to do again i felt like death cooled down a little LOL, so im thinking that the hgh will drop alot of fat for me as it seemed to really do the business in the short amount of time i was on it, coupled with a healthy clean diet and lots of running i now have a stafforshire bull terrier which needs constant exercise so he dont eat my walls no more :chomp:

some ppl are just heavey and carry a bit of extra weight i am one of these ppl in fact i think i would look silly with paper thin skin, so i am cool with the fact ill never be ripped to fukc
 
anyone for any more

if i took test how much or how little is would be appropriate considering i havnt had it before and would probally be quite receptive to it also do i need PCT after test if so what do i need and i take it when ppl say you need 500ml of test a week thats just once a week not split, i find hgh injections with slin needles a bitch as it is (im a pussy im sorry)

sweed you rright :) yeah i should really of been working out for 3-4 years BUT i have wanted to do steriods since i started training and dont think i can wait any longer, many many ppl have started doing them locally to me recently with only a feew months at the gym before they have started juicing with fukc all research so i figure im in a better position than them to try, iv been researching for a while a friend of mine is on steriods so ive been watching how he changes very closly to see if i can learn anything of him as well

thanks for replies so far altho most have been to change sweeds av LOL all i can say is it must of been a good av :verygood:

luke

p.s sweed just change your av by popular demand :)
 
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