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collegeguy

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I have recently been taking Cellucor p6, which is pretty much is just andro, and I have noticed great gains. About 3lbs. a week, maybe just water retention, but being 6ft 160lbs anyweight is good.

My question is this, I am planning on doing a 3 week cycle of Sust (250 mg/day) also using Clomitid and I would like to know:

Can I continue to use the andro (p6) before the Sust cycle and what are the effects of doing so?

What would be the major side effects involved in doing this cycle?

Does testicular atrophy reverse itself after stopping the cycle?

I am already eating about 4000cal a day, will I need to eat more?

Can I continue using creatine and whey protein?

Thanks, any advice is appreciated
 
250 a day or 250 a week???

If you are thinking about 250 a day maybe you should spread it out a bit more. The side effects would be pretty rough at that dosage. I am doing 250 a week and I'm seeing great gains. I'm up 10 lbs in 2.5 weeks and I'm not retaining any water(yet). For a newbie cycle I wouldn't recommend more than 500 a week max.

Your testes will go back to normal in a few weeks if you take clomid or nolvadex after the cycle is over.

Keep taking the protein shakes and creatine. 4000 calories is plenty but if you have room for more food it can't hurt if you are only 160 lbs (obviously an ectomorph).
 
First of all you should'nt even be thinking of taking gear unless you've reached your natural boundaries, which from your post it does'nt sound like you have. But, if I am wrong start out with 250 a week for 8 to ten weeks and I think you'll like your gains and it should be easy to keep what you gain as long as you keep training hard and eating well for that's a moderate cycle. And with that moderate of a cycle you should'nt even need clomid but keep some on hand in case you see some signs. hope this helps.

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I have gained 10 lbs (still as lean as before I started), added 20 lbs to my bench, 40 to my squats, 20 to my deadlifts in 2.5 weeks on only 250 a week of sust. Maybe my gains will be faster after 3 weeks but I woulld argue that I have made noticeable gains in the first 3 weeks.
 
collegeguy said:
My question is this, I am planning on doing a 3 week cycle of Sust (250 mg/day) also using Clomitid and I would like to know:

Can I continue to use the andro (p6) before the Sust cycle and what are the effects of doing so?

What would be the major side effects involved in doing this cycle?

Does testicular atrophy reverse itself after stopping the cycle?

I am already eating about 4000cal a day, will I need to eat more?

Can I continue using creatine and whey protein?

A 3 week Sust cycle, especially at 250mg/week, will not do anything for you. My first cycle was 250mg/8weeks, and after 6 months, I've retained 8-10 good lbs. I'm on week 3 on my current cycle and I'm up 4lbs, probably 2 of which are water.

I would not use proH's while on a gear cycle. It will shut you down even more, and I don't see any reason why you would want to use proH's if you have access to gear.

Clomid helps restore endogenous test production.

How big are you? I can get by with eating 4000cal/day easily during a bulking cycle, but I'm 5'5", 174 with an incredibly slow metabolism.

Whey protein is alright but I would cycle off creatine, and use it as a bridge during your clomid post cycle therapy.
 
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