Newbie - 1st cycle help

[IronBeast]

I am a newbie when it comes to posting, although I have read and searched these topics with no clear answer...

I have been reading about first cycles for over a year now and I see contradictions all over the place so i am turning to you guys for help.

A little about myself - I am 28 6'2 210 12-14% bf. I have been lifting consistently for 5 years. I cheat alot on the diet, but I have always had trouble putting on weight so the extra calories don't necessarily hurt. I would like to get to about 245 - not all at once obviously.

I am looking for advice on a first stack that is no longer than 8 weeks, isn't too complex (I want to see how my body reacts before getting too complex) and minimizes the number of injections per week.

Based upon what I have read Test is critical in any cycle and depending upon who you talk to, the main drawback of Deca is deca dick (which could be offset by the test)

What would be the best to run with Deca - Sust, Test Cyp? or is deca the wrong way to go altogether?

I appreciate all the information that everyone has already provided!

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Actually, deca dick is not that common of a problem. The main problems from deca are progestin sides. Water retention, increases estragen sensitivity, etc. There is no reason you can't do test enathate or cyp alone for a first cycle and make excellent gains. Deca is a bit weaker than test, and honestly will contribute less to the overall gains of your cycle.

 

[sh4dowf4lcon]

In my opinion you should run sust250 for 8 weeks, injecting 250mg once a week. I think since you are wanting to see how your body will react this is a good plan. Sust stays active in the body for 3-4weeks, so injecting once a week will allow the test levels to gradually increase with each injection. This gradual increase wil allow you to see results and evaluate how your body responds to the test.

I realize most people like sust @ no less than 500mg a week, but I have known several people who had significant gains in muscle and strength with only 250mg a week. If your body responds well, then on your next cycle you may want to increase to 500mg weekly.

You may also consider stacking Var @ 40mg a day for weeks 3-8. This gives you the first two weeks with only sust, so you can evaluate how your body is reacting.

Var is also an excellent stack with sust for adding lean muscle which you should be able to keep after you come off.

Usually people do not need antiE's with only 250mg weekly, but you may want something on hand in case you see symptoms of Gyno later in the cycle (not likely).

Of course, you know your diet and training is important in order to acheive gains in muscle.

my 2cc

SF

 

[IronBeast]

Thanks for the input, I subscribe to the keep it simple theory when doing new things and move on from there. I appreciate the honest advice.

 

[granby140]

cialis fixes deca dick

 

[manny78]

you could do:

test/dbols

deca/dbols

deca/test

test alone, deca alone

I'd do either a sust/dbols or sust deca. Have some novaldex just in case. And if using Deca, some proviron if by any badluck your libido say goodbye...

 

[jubei]

Here is your problem. You want a short cycle with long acting esters (fewest possible injects/week) I would go with sust @ 375-500mg/week for 10 weeks. Throw in dbol @ 20mg/day for the first 4 weeks if you really want but not neccessary by any means.

 

[rsd01]

30 mg of d-bol for six weeks and 400-600 mg of test for thw whole eight weeks. Simple but very effective if you eat right and train hard.

 

[khavanin]

Use only one steroid for your cycle if you are a newbie and you will be happy with results.

 

[BigB_79]

Go with:
500mg sustanon / week
10wks

This was my first cycle and I think I would have been disappointed with the gains if I only did 250mg / week.

 

[trinidad]

eq @ 400 mgs. wk x 10 wks.
test @ 500 mgs. wk x 10 wks.

A buddy of mine is doing his first cycle. He is 28 years old and has always worked out. He said he did not want to "blow up" on a first cycle so he is doing enth @ 500 mgs wk. (2 shots of 250 a wk). to see how his body will react. He just ended 5 wks. and is up 8 lbs. He still has 5 wks. to go BUT I can tell that he's actually disappointed that he hasn't "blown up", yet.

 

[granby140]

id stay away from the test. Blood levels vary too much. Go with a cyp or enethenate instead at around 400mg a week.

 

[BigB_79]

id stay away from the test. Blood levels vary too much. Go with a cyp or enethenate instead at around 400mg a week.

I could be wrong, but cypionate and enethenate are tests.

 

[JUICE AUTHORITY IS A FAG]

I SUGGEST THE FOLLOWING CYCLE...

WEEKS 1-10
ANDRO

WEEKS 3 - 9
CYBERGENICS

WEEKS 11 - 12
SMILAX

AND IF YOU THROW IN SOME GINSENG THAT WILL REALLY GET YOU RIPPED

 

[Juice Authority]

I SUGGEST THE FOLLOWING CYCLE...

WEEKS 1-10
ANDRO

WEEKS 3 - 9
CYBERGENICS

WEEKS 11 - 12
SMILAX

AND IF YOU THROW IN SOME GINSENG THAT WILL REALLY GET YOU RIPPED

You are a fucking moron..Please this guy until he is banned which shouldn't take too long.

 

[smb_69]

granby140 - what is cialis?? I get deca dick bad, but I love deca - Anything else that fixes that??

 

[rjl296]

granby140 - what is cialis?? I get deca dick bad, but I love deca - Anything else that fixes that??

cialis=new +improved viagra

 

[nuclear1]

if interested I will help with advice on a good newbie cycle based on my experience and that of several others. If not take the dude's advice that thinks cypionate and enethenate are not tests.

 

[Trip]

cyp and eth are both test. It's just the name of the oil, based on their acting period to free the test. Got the info from a great mag, MD(personal opinion). If you want to minimize injections, check out the names of the oils that the test is attached to. No flaming please if I'm wrong as I'm very new to this gear game.

Rgds

 

[IronBeast]

All of this info is great, I really appreciate the andro suggestion, that was certainly helpful. To everyone else, in all seriousness this input has been extremely helpful. I will post my results once I get going.