beastboy said:Looks like crap to me.
OWNED!NoDaddyNo said:
This coming from someone that is looking to buy a Ford truck?
right
NoDaddyNo said:
This coming from someone that is looking to buy a Ford truck?
right
"Overengineer" ? What does that mean , some of my friends at Audi would love to know , I kinda have an idea though and I agree with you - they take a long time to update models and nitpick over minor details - but they've always been like that. Remember what Mercedes did after the elk test , and Audi over a similar test on the TT? Compare that with what Ford did with Firestone and you get some idea of what these boys are willing to go through.As a matter of fact I HATE the interior on the base Z4 model.Y_Lifter said:Germans tend to OVER Engineer everything in their vehicles.
All the way down to the knobs on the A/C.
OverEngineering does not generally = Reliability
But it does = Fun to drive
ajtomasi said:vw has a public perception of reliability but it's not the same as a real reliability.
Bullit said:That looks cool as hell.
Mandinka2 said:
"Overengineer" ? What does that mean , nitpick over minor details -
Sure , I can see that , but look at the windscreen wiper , safety belt,side crash arms and airbag. These are all innovations that increase your safety dramatically , car manufacturers all imclude these items on their products today , wouldnt you rather have these products on your machine , say , if your daughter was driving? BMW worked extremely hard on engine reliability in the 60s and made their cars the forefront in that area, some things about the latest German cars I dont particularly like (see Z4 base model) because they've spent a fortune on chassis design but the cars look and drive great. My old man , a lifelong Swedish and British car driver (Saab,Jaguar and Volvo) came to Munich last April when we rented a BMW 320i convertible , he was blown away by the handling of the machine and its internals. You cannot argue with V8's normally , it's such a natural configuraiton offering great power and reliability at low revs (see increased reliability) but they are incredibly thirsty plants , especially when fuel is so expensive.Y_Lifter said:
Exactly, Spending wayyy too much time on the total perfection of
any item they are engineering.
Brakes, Knobs, Compressors, Electrical components.
Example is the Windows All down with the key in the door feature.
Way cool but something else to break down.
Yes, they come up with new ideas and technical innovations
that others manuf take over after VW/AUDI/BMW etc have proved it out and fixed any issues.
But this cutting edge approach in their cars can make them not as reliable as the Old school tried and true but less exciting technologies from US manuf in general.
Mandinka2 said:
These are all innovations that increase your safety dramatically , car manufacturers all imclude these items on their products today ,
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