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[smokey1993]

I am 21 and am thinking to take my first cycle. I know i should wait till I am older but really want to compete. I do not feel big enough for competition so I am thinking steroids would be the best option. I have been doing my research and talked to the guy supplying. He is telling me to take test and decca for my first cycle. He is also saying to not take less then 500mg a week of test and half the amount of decca per test. Should I take his advice? I was thinking lower the test to 250mg a week and dropping the decca. I know I need to do a PCT post cycle.

 

[buddhabuilder]

You will reduce the likelyhood of becoming a competitor if you don't max out your natural potential before crossing the line to gear. Give us a clear breakdown of your diet and exercise routine to start with.

 

[smokey1993]

this is me today. I follow IIFYM. I dont think the training and diet is an issue.

 

[depotgang]

Basically your getting good advice. Start doing gear now you will end up on hrt for the rest of your life... The only thing you could add in would be some of the milder sarms.... Food, creative, quality proteins and kicks ass at the gym is all you really need. Good luck bro no matter what you do


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[RickRock13]

What are your full stats? I'm having a lot of trouble believing that is a picture of a natural 21 year old that is clueless about juice.

Even if that is really you, you obviously need to do a ton of research about anabolics, PCT, and the proper supports before ever touching it.

 

[smokey1993]

What are your full stats? I'm having a lot of trouble believing that is a picture of a natural 21 year old that is clueless about juice.

Even if that is really you, you obviously need to do a ton of research about anabolics, PCT, and the proper supports before ever touching it.

i do not go by stats. That is me and i am completely natural. I am around 5'7 167lbs. I lift for the contraction of the muscle what ever weight feels enough for me. this is also why i am posting this before taking anything. I will be getting blood work done prior using and during to make sure I am 100% healthy. I want peoples opinion which is why i am posting this.

 

[RickRock13]

You have an unbelievable physique for natural bro. It's obvious that you have your diet and training dialed in very well, and some very good genetics to go along with it.

I'm generally not a fan of guys cycling so young, but it can't deny the fact that you are definitely physically ready to start if you wish. Your physique is already better than a lot of guys that have been juicing for years. The one thing I want to emphasize is the fact that when you first start, you don't need multiple compounds to get some drastic gains. It's best to start with a test only cycle and possibly an oral kickstart. You can add other compounds in later down the road. You really want to stay clear of Deca anyways because it is the hardest drug of all to recover from since it stays in your body so long to suppress you while you are trying to recover in PCT. Here is a good protocol for you

1-12 Test E 500mg per week
1-4 Dbol 40mg per day
1-12 Aromasin 12.5MG EOD
1-12 N2guard

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[Liquid 2009]

Look great bro

 

[smokey1993]

You have an unbelievable physique for natural bro. It's obvious that you have your diet and training dialed in very well, and some very good genetics to go along with it.

I'm generally not a fan of guys cycling so young, but it can't deny the fact that you are definitely physically ready to start if you wish. Your physique is already better than a lot of guys that have been juicing for years. The one thing I want to emphasize is the fact that when you first start, you don't need multiple compounds to get some drastic gains. It's best to start with a test only cycle and possibly an oral kickstart. You can add other compounds in later down the road. You really want to stay clear of Deca anyways because it is the hardest drug of all to recover from since it stays in your body so long to suppress you while you are trying to recover in PCT. Here is a good protocol for you

1-12 Test E 500mg per week
1-4 Dbol 40mg per day
1-12 Aromasin 12.5MG EOD
1-12 N2guard




thank you! most people at my gym believe i am on hahah. the one supplier i went to offered these as pcts
Can include:
Hcg, arimidex & clomid

I am also going to go to two other known sellers and speak to them before buying. I know one of them sells pharma grade but at a higher price...does that make it that much better?

 

[RickRock13]

If you can get legit pharma grade then that is great, but unfortunately there is a lot out there claiming pharma grade that is not, and ends up being bunk or underdosed product. It comes down to trust and reputation of your sources

 

[Tectime]

Dude good start man! Add that hcg to your cycle not in your pct. hcg is suppressive so leave it out of pct but utilize it during cycle to keep your testes in a more healthy state that will help you recover. Run like 250 ius every 3.5 days stop it the same as when you take your last tes only injection of your cycle. Use just tes for your first that way you get a feeling for it only. Make sure your ai is good and get base line bloods pre cycle and bloods again at 6 wks to see where your at. Look at your e2 numbers keep a close watch on estrogen and adjust your ai from there.


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[Mr. Chicago]

Yeah definitely go for it bro your base is there that's undeniable. I'd like to see another 20lbs on you you'll tear up the short class in a few years bro that's for sure.

 

[Mr. Chicago]

Also I agree with Rick, leave the deca alone. Maybe 30mgs of bol to start out with see how you respond and feel after a couple weeks and hell prolong it to 5-6 weeks tops. Depends on your goals, just please don't tell me you're the guy that's gonna complain about losing definition and don't want to gain "too much" haha i always get a kick out of that like the user has absolutely no control over it. Also I would run the test 14 weeks won't hurt you any. Get your pct in order see how you recover and then get ready for another go next year. With your genetics, and what I could only imagine your diet and training regiment, you could be 185 ripped to shreds by new year.

 

[Liquid 2009]

Great advice from Rick! I would take his advice. You will not be disappointed.

 

[stevesmi]

interesting you are 5 7 and 167 pounds. yet your pic looks like you are atleast 185

you would destroy in a contest in the light weight category cause you have a small structure.

 

[smokey1993]

Thanks everyone! i guess ill take the 500mg a week of test and see how that goes then depending on how i feel add in an oral steroid ? can anyone assist me with a PCT? i tried seeing what to take but there is so many options...which is the best?

 

[stevesmi]

Thanks everyone! i guess ill take the 500mg a week of test and see how that goes then depending on how i feel add in an oral steroid ? can anyone assist me with a PCT? i tried seeing what to take but there is so many options...which is the best?

you can either do 500mg of test with an AI
or you can add in an oral to kickstart things as an option.. I would recommend something like var, winny, or tbol the first 4 weeks, or if you want to take the legal route buy a PH from my pro H

as far as pct
click this link http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/p...est-pct-2014-time-break-out-whip-1328483.html

 

[hurricane]

I am 21 and am thinking to take my first cycle. I know i should wait till I am older but really want to compete. I do not feel big enough for competition so I am thinking steroids would be the best option. I have been doing my research and talked to the guy supplying. He is telling me to take test and decca for my first cycle. He is also saying to not take less then 500mg a week of test and half the amount of decca per test. Should I take his advice? I was thinking lower the test to 250mg a week and dropping the decca. I know I need to do a PCT post cycle.

if you want to start so low? why dont you start with a sarms triple stack? they are a great way to get your beak wet before actually doing injections. At your age,no need to rush into a test cycle.You have great genetic also.