New to dbol - dianabol - would like some advice

[dlusion]

Not trying to be a prick but I think it may be a good idea for you to do more research as you actually can hurt yourself on these things if you're not educated/disciplined, etc...

17aa (which Dbol is), although you don't have to inject, can be some of the more dangerous AAS.

No narcissism here just my observation as a (fellow) user of AAS.

no offense taken athlete.03..
i can't do a search on this site, as im not a platinum member, so if someone can post up some links to any dbol references, guides, tips, etc.. that would be appreciated.

I want to be 100% sure before starting any cycle/program! thanks.
and what's AAS?

 

[BC975]

Read the newbie section at the top of this forum... lots of great information. It will even tell you what AAS is....

 

[gettnlarge01]

you will need to get more educated on this before you start. some of the questions you asked you should"ve already known the answer to. don"t want to sound like a hardass but this is something to be taken with extreme caution and care until you know how your body will react to them.

 

[ScienceGeek]

1. You should look at the "AIFM" threads on this site, and figure out that you should really use this with the dbol.

2. You should know: A. What "gyno" is B. What to do if you start getting it.

3. This ones a little more advanced; DBol converts to a nasty form of estrogen that can fuck you up. #1 should solve this for you.

 

[CO B-man]

Wow! Well D-bol turned out to be good shit for me. You will gain mass quickly but also lose it quickly if you do not do it right plus you are going to lose some anyway simply because it was only water weight. Since Test is not your style I can tell you that the orals you are going to be taking are going to be a lot harsher on your liver than the testosterone. Either way you are doing steroids so what style means I do not know. ESPECIALLY if you plan on drinking which it sounds like you do. Milk thistle is an herb to help aid your liver functions. You dont want to do much more than four weeks of orals at a time. Same time on = same time off. Realize you are going to feel bloated as hell unless you do something about that now. A lot of people swear by AIFM I never used it myself but I did use anastrozole and that seemed to help.

 

[instant.muscle]

milk thistle is a plant extract that keeps ur liver healthy from the orals

 

[Silent Method]

dlusion, hold off on the cycle for a bit. You need to do some research on your own. Starting at the board is a good start. Do some simple searches with google and see what you come up with. Search dianabol, gyno, aromatase, antiestrogen...that's a start.

This is a good place to get practical cycling advice usualy.


I'm actualy considering running a dbol only cycle - just about to post for ideas about it as a matter of fact.


Curently, I'm thinking of running about 6 weeks of dbol at 35-50 mg (er, maybe even 60 mg) per day. I've also done it before and have a good idea what to expect from my body as far as side effects and changes in my body.

You don't have that luxury. Sides can hit some people pretty hard. Somepeople get gyno pretty easily and/or lose hair and/or get BAD acne. I know I will lose some hair. I will try to reduce this side effect with rogaine (minoxidil) and nizoral (ketoconazole) to combat the androgens in my scalp. I know at a high dose of d-bol I will retain a lot of water and may be prone to gyno. I will have other goodies to combat this. Probably AIFM with nolva on hand.

I also believe I can put on some considerable muscle, and even lose a good deal of fat if I play my cards right. Many knowledgeable people here disagree and think that a dbol only cycle is not a good choice for any cycle.

I know accne will be an issue. Keeping clean, tan, clean, tan, clean, and using some otc products would help - but it worries me - but testosterone alone gives me hard to combat acne at the tail end of a cycle - having never done dbol alone (for more than a very short duration) without test, and having never gotten hard to deal with acne until the end of a cycle, I don't know if dbol will really hit me with that degree of acne. Most people I've talked to who get really bad acne with dbol get it very quickly.

Hmm, here lies a problem. I DON'T want that bad acne - at all! With a test only cycle, I may have an easy solution - accutane. I know I could use it to dry up my skin, but ti's far too liver toxic to mix with dbol.

But I could start a longer test and dbol cycle, drop the dbol after 4-5 weeks - I can usually keep acne reasonable a bit beyond that point in a cycle. Accutane could then be used should problems arise.

Ancillaries will be needed, including anti-e, plenty of food sups, ala, milk thistle, etc. The dbol, and accutane if needed, will be hard on the liver.


Did I mention test an dbol are way beter than dbol alone?

 

[Silent Method]

Almost forgot - NO DRINKING on this thing. Think about it. This IS different in what it requires of YOU compared to a person who is not ready.

Make sense?

 

[Silent Method]

and then I start to think fuck it, I'll run some tren...

 

[solidspine]

I would never recomend d-bol on a first cycle. If you don't like to inject than skip gear, I did at least 5 solid cycles before I tried d-bol, fina or winny.