New to AAS, really need help

[DSTiamat]

Hello brothers!

I am pretty new to this board, but not new to bodybuilding,nice board, nice people.
But now to my problem, as said i'm in no case new to bodybuilding, i'm training for 9-10 years now,have
95 kg (I am from Europe, thats why I am writing in kg not lbs), benching 160kg, I have
tryed every kind of supplement (creatine, aminos, etc) in the last years, but I just cant grow in mass and strength anymore,
so I decided to try AAS, I am living in Romania, a country where untill last year D-bol and Deca where hellish cheap, and
ALOT of bodybuilders were abusing them whitout really beiing informed (I mean really abusing them, meaning no cycles,
just going on for years, no PCT, nothing) and thats why i heard and seen ALOT of horrorstorys from AAS abuse (tits longer than
my mothers and hair like a gorilla), thats why I stood away from AAS.I came upon this board and beeing curious did some reading,
remarked that AAS can be done safely too if you just know what you are doing and decided to try them.
My worst fear of AAS are the androgenic sideeffects (meaning firstly hairloss, I am absolutely paranoic about it, having no
history in my family and no signs at 29 years but i decided to still take FIN just in case), so I thought about just using DECA
alone (as I heard there are no such sides when on DECA).Here do my questions begin. Can I get some good results beeing only
on DECA or not , if not what should I try (D-bol or TEST, which has fewer androgenic sideeffects?, which is better whit DECA?)
If I am doing D-bol or Test is FInesteride enough to counter the androgenic sideefects? Or, do these sides even appear if I am
doing AAS correctly in cycles? are there big chances?
Or shall I begin whit DECA alone? Can I get some nice results this way? and the again what about DECA-dick?Can it be countered
some way whitout Test ( as far as I know deca-dick comes from Deca surpressing the bodys testosterone production.
Is Test a must here or can it be done whitout Test or D-bol and still having gains?
Sorry for the wall of text and my english and thank you for your time!
DST

 

[stevesmi]

bro you are 209 pounds and you bench 352 pounds and you are upset about your strength?

you should be proud. i get what you are saying though that you hit a peak... and good for you for waiting till you hit a peak before diving in.

I would highly recommend NOT doing a deca alone cycle. a good rule of thumb for a first cycle is test alone and lineup a kick ass PCT after.

 

[jhkram]

I too would say that Testosterone is the way to go on a first cycle. So be it that Test has a greater rate of convertion to estrogene, but if you keep your doses moderate (5-600mg EW) you would not suffer any sides, unless you are very sensitive to them.

I have bw at about 220, and are running 400mg of Decca and 375mg of Test EW and have absolutely no sides.

I would not worry about hairloss if there is no history of it in your family.

 

[joe d]

i would go with dbol only.

i suggest the following cycle. every comma will indicate a new week. every number will indicate a mg dosage.
5,10,10,15,20,20,20,20,15,15,10,10,5,5

during this cycle you will need to drink a lot of water and eat plenty of fresh berries. you will also need to run an ai to keep estrogen levels low.

starting the day after your last dbol dose i suggest a mild pct. 20mg nolvadex every day for 30 days will do.

please refer to this site for information about these drugs
DrugsProfiles.com | Home

 

[djboots]

i would go with dbol only.

i suggest the following cycle. every comma will indicate a new week. every number will indicate a mg dosage.
5,10,10,15,20,20,20,20,15,15,10,10,5,5

during this cycle you will need to drink a lot of water and eat plenty of fresh berries. you will also need to run an ai to keep estrogen levels low.

starting the day after your last dbol dose i suggest a mild pct. 20mg nolvadex every day for 30 days will do.

please refer to this site for information about these drugs
DrugsProfiles.com | Home

Am i reading somthing wrong. But those doses per day are way to low, for results of dbol i sat 25-30mg per day.

 

[Boxingheels]

Am i reading somthing wrong. But those doses per day are way to low, for results of dbol i sat 25-30mg per day.

Bro he will easily be able to make gains with these doses. You dont have to run 25-50mgs of dbol just to gain. Over that amount of time these would be good doses. Trust me, Joe D knows his shit!

 

[joe d]

Am i reading somthing wrong. But those doses per day are way to low, for results of dbol i sat 25-30mg per day.

you read it right. its just another aproach. you can run 80mg ed for 3 weaks and gain and you can run 20mg ed four times as long and gain. dbol is often misunderstood. you could read up on it in some medical documents to better understand its effectiveness in lower dose long cycles. i promise you there are many effective ways to cycle.

 

[DSTiamat]

People thank you again for taking your time and reading the long text, but I am kinda scared of
test and d-bol, so again, why is Deca alone as a first cycle not recommended? Deca has the fewest sideeffects (no androgenic ones, that are the ones that i fear most).Or is it just so that TEST and D-Bol are safe too if you do them in cycles with PCT and all that stuff ?DECA just lookes best from my point of view, is it just not good for beginners?and why that?
TY again
DST

 

[goal245]

If you run deca alone you will most likely lose your sex drive, meaning your dick wont work even if you have the hottest girl in front of you.

Dont worry about your hair, 500mg of test or 20mg of dbol wont leave you bald.

 

[DSTiamat]

So I understood that deca is not to begin with, Test or D-bol shall it be (again my paranoia: SURELY no hairloss if i take finesteride and keep the doses moderate? experiences?) What shall I begin with Test or D-bol and if Test what kind of Test? Can someone tell me whats best for stopping aromatisation and a good PCT?
TY (really TY)
DST

 

[DSTiamat]

Cmon ppl I just cant wait to start, whats beeter for e newbie like me? D-bol or Test? And some short info on AI and PCT would be welocome
TY