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New program (just an experiment)

Bro do you do it 6 days straight then one day off??

cuz that looks like your CNS take an ass whoopin from hell!!!!!

besides that it seems like it hits everything, I saw how you plan on changin leg press to more squats on the first day! but again I think it would take to much of a toll on my body IMO

Peace
 
I agree bro...this is actually my brothers off-season routine.......His show is n September, so I asked him what his training was like (aside from eating like a horse every 10 minutes)............what would you change? I dont think it's too much, as he said he is in there for 45 minutes max, but too many days on...yes. Changes?
 
I would think just place a day off between each 3 days and it shouldnt be to bad! so it turns into a 3 days on, 1 day off routine! It seems to be a strong routine, it just takes alot of motivation to hit the gym that much consistantly!! Not to mention the toll on your body...your bro must be a beast!!!!

Peace
 
wonder how he can train chest/delts in the same day.........I have a hard enough time with chest calves
 
Looks pretty solid. Id go with more volume. I used to do a six day routine where I trained most all muscle groups twice. My volume was still a minimum of 12 sets for small bodyparts and 15 for back and legs. I was able to do it back then, but now with all the weight I move, Id tear myself apart. Id rather train less days, if need be, and up the volume. With that routine, Id increase the volume all around. This is just the way I train though. Might want to try the routine as it is, and see how it feels. I also like to prioritize bench and inclines on thier own days. Havent used dumbbells for chest in a long time.
 
you know Beast, I thought the same thing, but after talking with my brother, it makes a ton of sense in what he is doing. His sessions are no longer than 45 minutes and his reps very rarely go over 6-8..........his point was #1, you lose concentration after 45 minutes and after higher reps..........so, his theories are short and extremely intense in the wayu to build mass.....I have to agree......+ it gives him more time to recoop, and motivates him for future workouts....not to mention, more time to EAT!
 
JKurz1 said:
you know Beast, I thought the same thing, but after talking with my brother, it makes a ton of sense in what he is doing. His sessions are no longer than 45 minutes and his reps very rarely go over 6-8..........his point was #1, you lose concentration after 45 minutes and after higher reps..........so, his theories are short and extremely intense in the wayu to build mass.....I have to agree......+ it gives him more time to recoop, and motivates him for future workouts....not to mention, more time to EAT!


If hes getting great results on the routine, able to get out of the gym faster, and not tearing himself apart, to the point of injuries, sounds like its working great for him. For me, 45 mins is just the beginning of most of my sessions, and its after that period that I hit most of my PR's. Of course, my rest periods are often much longer then most on the compound lifts especially. Im just now finally, trying to look into more methods to see what else is out there. Im putting a ton of stress on my body and mind training at the rate I have been. I may need to look for alternatives in my training at some point. My gains are the best theyve ever been now though. But Ive got pain all over. Im actually doing a 3 day training routine at the moment. Im still able to hit PR's on flat bench training 3 days a week. Some weeks it might only be 2 days. Id rather train like this then be out of the gym for a long stretch. Im basically just training arms,chest and back when I can. My legs and back seem to maintain longer, then anything else. I lose muscle faster on everything else. I figure I can try to bring up my bench and arms in the mean time. Might have to cut the routine down even more if my back keeps getting worse. Good luck with the routine!
 
So you going 3 days at 3+ hours a hit and he going 6 days at 45 minute clips, he's actually getting in and out quicker than you are..........just your theories and its what works for you...but keep in mind...you are of the minority Beast........most can't train like you, with the intensity, for longer than 1hr...........
 
i like that routien, but i think i would maybe do it at 4 weeks, take a week or two of lighter work, and go back at it for 4 weeks to keep the CNS form getting too beaten down
 
Want to be guinea pigs and give it a shot? I'm currently looking into the Max-Ot program, but this has many of the same principles, just more bodyparts per day...I'll be hitting my 12th week of 5x5 on Friday.....LOVE it....but thinking of a new switch to go with my new diet.........we'll see.
 
JKurz1 said:
Want to be guinea pigs and give it a shot? I'm currently looking into the Max-Ot program, but this has many of the same principles, just more bodyparts per day...I'll be hitting my 12th week of 5x5 on Friday.....LOVE it....but thinking of a new switch to go with my new diet.........we'll see.

my "supplement plan" will be changing in January, that may be a good time for me to try hitting everything twice a week, so I'm game as to trying it out with you then

and I may try 5x5 in the summer, just because so many seem to make good progress off of it

we should do before/after pics if we do it though
 
I think the intensity is there, you hit alot of ranges of reps, if your rest isnt alot you are sure to get an aweme pump. Like HST you hit the muscles for a total of the same sets as if you were doing them just once a week, but you are giving your body twice the chance to grow!! The logic seems to be there, now lets see if it is effective?

I am currently doing the 5x5 routine for major movements right now and love it, I too plan on switching things up when I get back from Iraq, and maybe either try a HST routine or maybe a routine like your doing!! I am goign to copy it and look at it more in depth and see how it feels!! K for ya bro...

and yea Beast your exactly that a fuckin beast, I could never do the intensity that you do, and shit 3 hours in the gym, would kill me!!!!! Id go insane!

Peace
 
WalkingBeast said:
If hes getting great results on the routine, able to get out of the gym faster, and not tearing himself apart, to the point of injuries, sounds like its working great for him. For me, 45 mins is just the beginning of most of my sessions, and its after that period that I hit most of my PR's. Of course, my rest periods are often much longer then most on the compound lifts especially. Im just now finally, trying to look into more methods to see what else is out there. Im putting a ton of stress on my body and mind training at the rate I have been. I may need to look for alternatives in my training at some point. My gains are the best theyve ever been now though. But Ive got pain all over. Im actually doing a 3 day training routine at the moment. Im still able to hit PR's on flat bench training 3 days a week. Some weeks it might only be 2 days. Id rather train like this then be out of the gym for a long stretch. Im basically just training arms,chest and back when I can. My legs and back seem to maintain longer, then anything else. I lose muscle faster on everything else. I figure I can try to bring up my bench and arms in the mean time. Might have to cut the routine down even more if my back keeps getting worse. Good luck with the routine!


Ya my legs and back maintain better, too. I quit training legs cause they got too big. I always lose from my chest first. It's some sort of survival mechanism that my body has, I thing. Muscle dispersement/catabolism predisposition?

As far as rest goes, well, it's great for strength, but for conditioning, you should rest less. Conditioning will help my body adapt and recover from the damage incurred in the hypertrophy & strength phases.

So I do conditioning phase, then hypertrophy phase, and then strength phase, then short layoff. This time, I'm gonna try 2 strength phases, though.

The hypertrophy phase helps me get bigger so I'll have more mass when I'm in my strength phase. Rest is shorter in the hypertrophy phase than in the strength phase -- about 90-120 sec between sets.

Strength phase it's like 5 min between sets.

The layoff just sucks, but it's necessary.
 
I think it's called multi-exercise sets, where instead of focusing 2 or exercises per bodypart, you spread out your sets among 4 -5 exercises. Couple questions: does he jump right into the 2 working sets or does he have a few warmups? Also, is this meant as a strength routine, size routine, or both? I'm a little confused about the mixture of rep ranges .. for example, incline press and smith press - one heavy, one light. Why not just pyramid up on the incline press for a total of 4 sets and scratch out the smith press?
 
Last week of 5x5 and I'm going to give this a shot for awhile...........good change of pace every 6 months or so.............
 
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