New Myostat Info

[FunkMasterFlex]

Hey i just got out of a meeting a few hours ago with a leading myo company, and was informed that Myostat for all intentive purposes has anabolic properties. There isnt much to go on but its believed to effect muscle fiber in the same means of creatine, but 2 fold. THis was in vitro and not human tested, but most everything is that does work. I cant say too cause i dont know about the next steps int he process but this was straight from the head researchers mouth. It possible myostat does something other than inhibit myostat, the actual pathway is being discovered .....prob take a good year for the info to get released but atleast you should know you arent wasting your money..haha.

 

[smokinghawk]

Nonsense.

1. You took the word of a Myo rep.
2. Everything in your message hints at "possibilities" at least a year away from even being tested. Then you conclude "you're not wasting your money," which no evidence yet suggests.
3. All research is in vitro. No human data exists.
4. Even in vitro researchers have said that myostat compounds are not orally active in humans (I've posted a letter on this forum from one of those researchers).

 

[FunkMasterFlex]

yeah well this is the most recent news....like new as it gets . And actually the TZ is the phd i i spoke to in person and i know i was a lil scarce but i didnt have time to get into it or did he have the means to do so because its still like he said in a year. BUT MOST RESEARCH that works in vivo, similiar to creatine in vivo, tends to work once absorbtion by the body is insured. Thats the risk....but the supplpiment has alot more promise now than it did a few months ago. So from blind to dim lit the topic, not a solid case yet, but hey it would make me feel better after spending loads of $$ .....

 

[FunkMasterFlex]

oh and i did have a nice conversation on many other products unassocaited with any of the pro-myo companies. Real down to earth guy and he is in the labs where this stuff happens not just a rep, so i take what i say as good news not a pump on myopstat...i personally will be waiting a year before i touch the stuff.

 

[TYPE A]

You were sold

I'm with Smokinghawk bro...

No offense, but the claims myostatin products make are outlandish. I doubt supplement companies and small time scientists would be leading the myostatin charge if it had the potential to substantiate claims... I'm sure the pharmaceudical industry would've had their hands on this if it was even the slightest bit promising.

 

[feelin_kinda_saucey]

FUCKIN BULLSHIT...... MYOSTAT LICKS A DONKEYS ASS.... SAVE YOUR GHETTO ASS BULLSHIT FOR SOME OTHER BOARD, AND DONT TELL MEMBERS HERE THAT FUCKIN GARBAGE PRODUCTS LIKE MYOSTAT ARE EVEN WORTH TWO SHITS.....

 

[FunkMasterFlex]

seriously you need to relax.... you know i went through the same BS with creatine back in High School(1996), did it work HELL YEAH!...did anyone really know for sure NO!!!, now look at the industry. THere are many well educated individuals on this board but there are also a load of meatheads, I personally was one, before 4 yrs of college and 2 yrs of idepedent study in health, but i guess that counts for nothing. Of course there claims are whacky THATS Business. To capture market share atleast they are researching it, and it shows positive effects in in vitro. And the fact that myostat might work in other ways than myostat inhibition is great to know. I've seen what seem to be common results from ppl using the myostat in 1000mg fashion in retaining muscle mass even in hypocaloric states , and illness, and even just not lifitng. It no easy way out, but its lil by little working out to maybe be a benefit to us all one day, Im not saying go and buy it,but if you have dont kill yourself over it, there seems to be a positive note in the research, and thats what counts. How many of you acutally had a live personal conversation with one, never mind 5 or 10 phd research heads about products. Most of which are indepent of a product company. I have and i have to say its the marketing f dept that makes us hate a company. THey higher Phd's to find good things, and usually have to sign papers saying that bad results will not be published, well it happens that the company i was meeting with doesnt do that, they have reformulated, and released many results, are they HUGE availabe studies of course not. DO your HW and you can find them. The good companies are out there, dont let there marketing sceams mask a quality product.

 

[feelin_kinda_saucey]

BIOTEST IS A FUCKING JOKE, THEIR PRODUCTS ARE GARBAGE , THEIR CUSTOMER SERVICE IS GARBAGE AND THE WAY THEY DO BUSINESS IS FUCKING PATHETIC.... THE LITTLE BIT OF THEIR FLY BY NIGHT BULLSHIT I HAVE LEFT ON MY SHELVES TO SELL WILL BE ALL THAT ANY OF MY STORES AND MY HAPPY CUSTOMERS WILL EVER BE FORCED TO LOOK AT AGAIN..... BIOTEST BLOWS AND IS GOING TO BE SHORT LIVED......

 

[tm morrison]

biotest

as usual,gross overstatements from this raged out biotest hater. I'm no huge fan, (except for their archived library which is excellent) because they overhype their stuff but the truth as usual lies somewhere in the middle.... their products range from dissapointing to ok to good depending on what we're talking about.

 

[CanadianCripple]

I think this sums up the myostatin hype well:

http://www.ast-ss.com/articles/article.asp?AID=85

Come on think about it. Think of the medical benifits which could be had for certain conditions, but yet it's Biotest & a couple of others who now have the 'secret' cocktail. Yeah right!

The medical community would be all over this supposed miracle. Use your brains.