New Memeber, 1st Question :)

[reivog]

Hey there.

I have just joined the Platinum program on this board and have already been searching through a lot of the post and info on here. I see i have made a good choice to join this board.

OK. Lets get started with my 1st question for a bit of adivice.

I am starting my 1st juice cycle next friday, so can you all take 5 minutes just to take a look at it and give me any advice or tweaks or anything at all that you may seem relevant

Weeks 1 - 9 : Sust250, FrontLoad 750ml then 500ml WK
Weeks 1 - 6 : D-Bol Oral 5mg - 30 to 35mg ED
Weeks 11 - 13 : Clomid 50mg ED (100mg ED for 1st week)

Will also have Nova to hand incase Gyno appears. Now this is where i am a little stuck and cant seem to get any answers to. Do i run the nova at 20mg ED through the whole cycle to help cut back on Water Retention and sides or shall i just deal with the added water (plus i suppose extra water helps with increased strength) and only take the Nova INCASE i see signs of Gyno ?

I am 6'2" and 185lb. I am hoping to gain about 20lb from this cycle.

I train 4 times a weeks, and i train hard, with heavy weights to faliure.

I also plan on 'trying' to get about 4500 - 5000 Calories down my throat a day.

Thanks for any advice or info you can give me

Yours

Paul

 

[powerforward]

bump for new guy.

 

[Silent Method]

1. I'm not a fan of stacking for a first cycle. Many knowledgeable vets will disagree with me, but I feel it's safer to pick one core steroid to run to assess how you react. I think you'd be happy with the results you'd see from 500mg test per week for 10 weeks.

2. A friend of mine just convinced me to stay away from d-bol for my second cycle because of my concern with water retention, acne, and hair loss. Of course their are preventative measures you can take against these side effects with d-bol as with any drug - but I wouldn't want to find out from my first cycle that d-bol gives you terrible facial acne that takes several months to go away.

3. I have no experience with using nolva for reducing water retention. I do know that nolva has a propensity to reduce gains (the true extent of this effect is unknown) and other compounds may work better for the purpose of reducing water retention. Why not reserve the nolva for gyno protection - if you notice signs of gyno I believe the prescribed method is to take nolva at 20mg/day for a week and 10mg/day for the rest of the cycle.

4. Assuming you limit the nolva to the occurrence of gyno, you need an anti-estrogen to utilize throughout the cycle. Liquidex is the choice drug for reducing estrogen and bloat (as well as other estrogen related side effects) while on a steroid cycle. You may also consider proviron that has been a traditional mainstay for keeping your body hard and reducing estrogen side effects on a cycle.

 

[reivog]

Question

Thanks for the info Bro...

Your saying that i need to run an addition Anti-E all the way throughout the cycle as well ?

Most boards that i have read, and research has said that running the Sust and D-Bol will be ok, and only to take the Nova if signs of Gyno Occur.

They also say that if I am worried about Water Retention then run Nova thorough out the cycle, but gains may not be as good?

Are you saying i need to try get some more Anti-E's before i start this cycle....

My Head hurts!

Cheers

 

[bigdelt69]

just get some liquidex to help with the water retention, and only use the nolva in case of gyno.

 

[Silent Method]

Different people react differently. For some, running 500mg of test and 30mg of d-bol per week with no anti-e's is fine. For some this could mean significant gyno and other estrogen related side effects.

Do you want to find out which category your in by taking the chance of growing a pair of tits on your first cycle?

Assuming the test only cycle, at the very least I'd run proviron at 25mg/day every day of the cycle. If I had the option I'd use liqudex at 1mg every other day.

D-bol converts to estrogen (not to mention DHT) like crazy. If I was running the d-bol I'd opt for the liqudex an possibly keep or even up the dose of proviron.

 

[jc21]

to answer your question about nolva thoughout the cycle...no you should not, it will cause the gear to not work as well. get your self some liquidex or arimidex because it will not hinder the gains. other than that i like the cycle. and good luck.

 

[reivog]

Thanks for the Input Gang,

Will I need to get liquidex from my source or is it avalible to buy in Pharmacys/health shops. I cant seem to find any info about it on the Net ?

Thanks in advance.

 

[Silent Method]

Thanks for the Input Gang,

Will I need to get liquidex from my source or is it avalible to buy in Pharmacys/health shops. I cant seem to find any info about it on the Net ?

Thanks in advance.

Run a search to find out more about it and check with a mod.

 

[reivog]

Mod/Vet

Is it possible for a Mod or Vet to give me a PM or Email please ?

Just so i can have a chat about this.

Thanks a lot

 

[mvmaxx]

Re: Mod/Vet

Is it possible for a Mod or Vet to give me a PM or Email please ?

Just so i can have a chat about this.

Thanks a lot

Since you're Platinum then go click on Platinum chat and ask your questions in there. There's always vets and mods online.