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[silver_shadow]

hi all...
i'm abt to start a short cycle- something like this:
wk 1-4 aquaviron @ 50 mg ed

ok, before i come to my question- let me explain. yes, it is a short cycle at just 4wks. the point is that i have decided to give it a try- i am not a fan of water weight and so i figure that doing a short cycle will help me pack on some bulk quickly and hopefully i'll keep most of it- a few such cycles and it should add up nicely. i know many will disagree with that- but i'm not goin to go any other way right now.
so, my problem is- i want to throw in some durabolin (not deca) at maybe 200 mg/wk. basically, can anyone tell me how long after my last shot of durabolin do i have to start clomid. accordingly, i may time the last shot so that i can then start my clomid within 8hrs of my last test shot. i hope that makes sense. give me a critiques about my cycle. another thing- can i mix the durabolin and aquaviron in the same syringe?

 

[dazkem]

Mate as new to all this as i am, you realy need to do some research, but to answer your last question, take the clomid 3 weeks after last shot...but do some serious research bro, otherwise you could get hurt or worse gain nothing
Daz

P.S what is "aquaviron" never heard of it, and you want to do durabolin...but NOT deca ?
Mate i stress again, DO SOME RESEARCH, if someone else can tell me otherwise, like i said i'm new too, but been researching my first cycle for about 3 months now.
Good luck....I think you'll need it

 

[silver_shadow]

bro, i appreciate ur concern- but it so happens that i am 7 cycles old! i'm new around here. about research, if anyone wants to know about short cycles i suggest they do a bit of reading at mesomorphosis. check this out too, it could be useful:
http://forum.anabolicextreme.com/vi...der=asc&start=0
about aquaviron- let me explain- it is an aqueous suspension of test- as opposed to test with an ester attached. what does that mean- well the longer the ester, as u know, the longer it takes for the test to kick in. so short ester test kicks in faster and esterless test, fastest. not just that, when i talk about 250 mg of test enth i am talking about 250 mg which is the weight of the ester with the test. 50 mg test suspension on the other hand has exactly 50 mg of pure test. the advantage is that apart from being faster acting, i get more androgenic effect mg for mg from pure test. the down side is the short half life and consequent ed shots.
about durabolin- as u know deca is nandrolone decanoate and durabolin is nandrolone phenylpropionate. the second ester is shorter leading to a shorter half life which makes it more suitable for a short cycle (although perhaps not necessarily the best choice compared to some other gear).

 

[dazkem]

Mate I stand corrected, was'nt trying to be a dick, hope the clomid answer helps
daz

 

[SofaGeorge]

A 4 week cycle is a waste of a first cycle. Don't do it.

You need to learn a LOT more before you even consider cycling.

 

[jubei]

SS, in the future try and use the compounds generic name, in this case test suspension as nobody including me has a fucking clue what aquaviron is. Personally I would recommend nolvadex or liquidex to keep off water weight and go with an 8 week cycle.

As far as clomid...well don't bother. I would suggest using nolvadex @ 20-30mg/day for 4 weeks as post cycle therapy. You can start post cycle therapy 1 week after your last shot if you are running the previously mentioned AAS.

 

[satchboogie]

aquaviron???

 

[jubei]

DRR, I was thinking the same thing. Thanks for explaining the benifits of aquaviron to us...or you could have just wrote test susp.

 

[drrman]

bro, i appreciate ur concern- but it so happens that i am 7 cycles old! i'm new around here. about research, if anyone wants to know about short cycles i suggest they do a bit of reading at mesomorphosis. check this out too, it could be useful:
http://forum.anabolicextreme.com/vi...der=asc&start=0
about aquaviron- let me explain- it is an aqueous suspension of test- as opposed to test with an ester attached. what does that mean- well the longer the ester, as u know, the longer it takes for the test to kick in. so short ester test kicks in faster and esterless test, fastest. not just that, when i talk about 250 mg of test enth i am talking about 250 mg which is the weight of the ester with the test. 50 mg test suspension on the other hand has exactly 50 mg of pure test. the advantage is that apart from being faster acting, i get more androgenic effect mg for mg from pure test. the down side is the short half life and consequent ed shots.
about durabolin- as u know deca is nandrolone decanoate and durabolin is nandrolone phenylpropionate. the second ester is shorter leading to a shorter half life which makes it more suitable for a short cycle (although perhaps not necessarily the best choice compared to some other gear).

is it me or did anyone else notice the condescending tone in this??? we are not as stupid as you think there NEWBIE

 

[chemEngr]

The dossage is decent, however i would run with at least one other thing, and for a couple weeks longer, like 6-8. 6 week minimum and 9-10 max. Or at least that is just my opinion, everyone always has their own, just find what best works for you

 

[silver_shadow]

thanx for the inputs bros (and the odd flame- thanx for nothing). i've done 7 cycles- this ain't my first - my first was sus and deca at 8 wks and all others have been min of 8 wks. but i find that my gains tend to taper off towards the end even with long esters- just my personal experience. so i have decided to give this a try- lets see at the end of 4wks- if things are going well then i will stop, if not i will have to continue- i have enough gear for 16 wks bcoz i am not sure how this will work out.