New cycle suggestions please

[Yuca]

I'm about to start a new cycle but undecided on what to use. I'm thinking of QV 300mg/10cc of Deca 1x a week, Qv 50mg/20cc Winstrol 3x a week and QV anavar 25mg a day.

I'm 5'6 weight 165 pounds I'm preety much cut. Started working out at the gym 6 months ago. My objectives are to gain muscular mass (Deca + anavar) and cut (Winstrol) at the same time. Not get too big do to my height. I'm also trying to watch out for side effects. The safer the better. My budget is not to exceed $400. I also use Isopure, Snac(zinc) and NO2.

All recomendations are welcome and thanks. I can also get Denkall labs but they are more expensive that QV.

 

[Bulldog_10]

I think 6 months is a bit early to juice bro. I'm sure you can keep making some major gains without it at this point. If you're not seeing the gains you'd like, take a long, hard look at your diet and training and make some adjustments.

How old are you, BTW?

 

[brandonp005]

yeah bro, only 6 monthes of training,,,there is no way you should have already preaked out

if your diet isn't in check, fixed it and you will be amazing with the results.

throw some pure creatine in there, about 10 grams/per day and you'll see some good solid gains.

also, how old are you? I wouldn't suggest taking gear unless your atleast around 22, cause your body isn't fully matured yet

 

[tattoofever]

the best gear is FOOD and lots of it

 

[greekhookup]

amen to that, protien ration of 1:1, 3-4k calories a day(good calories, no fat, moderate carbs), and plenty or rest....these three keys are essential to reaching maximum strength, and then after 2 or 3 years of growing then maybe a cycle wouldnt hurt to bump you to the next level, as of now i know that you will go through with this cycle but you are only screwing yourself as you havnt achieved maximum strength without drugs, in other words you havnt peaked, if you cycle DURING your progress to peaking out then you wont reach the highest level of strength as if you cycled AFTER you hit your peak, which would put you at your highest level...good luck, and what is with people not using test with deca, its like eating steak without A1 sauce

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

amen to that, protien ration of 1:1, 3-4k calories a day(good calories, no fat, moderate carbs), and plenty or rest....these three keys are essential to reaching maximum strength, and then after 2 or 3 years of growing then maybe a cycle wouldnt hurt to bump you to the next level, as of now i know that you will go through with this cycle but you are only screwing yourself as you havnt achieved maximum strength without drugs, in other words you havnt peaked, if you cycle DURING your progress to peaking out then you wont reach the highest level of strength as if you cycled AFTER you hit your peak, which would put you at your highest level...good luck, and what is with people not using test with deca, its like eating steak without A1 sauce

True dat,
try eating and lifting for about 6-7 years then Sauce

 

[growthspurt]

Yeah,
You would be mking a big mistake not using test.

 

[Yuca]

I'm 32 years old. Thanks for all the suggestions. I've been in the gym before for 2 and a half to 3 years. Stopped for a year and came back six month ago, should I still wait or should I go as plan.

 

[buffalo]

I would up your protein intake and give it another 6 months just to make sure your tapped out.

 

[210toosmall]

amen to that, protien ration of 1:1, 3-4k calories a day(good calories, no fat, moderate carbs), and plenty or rest....these three keys are essential to reaching maximum strength, and then after 2 or 3 years of growing then maybe a cycle wouldnt hurt to bump you to the next level, as of now i know that you will go through with this cycle but you are only screwing yourself as you havnt achieved maximum strength without drugs, in other words you havnt peaked, if you cycle DURING your progress to peaking out then you wont reach the highest level of strength as if you cycled AFTER you hit your peak, which would put you at your highest level...good luck, and what is with people not using test with deca, its like eating steak without A1 sauce

if there is a such thing as a "limit" why would you not be able to achieve as high of a strength level?
wtf
does this even make sense? how would aas LIMIT your potential?
maybe you wont get as far naturally but you wouldnt really be natural would you?
some people advocate the use of aas to reach potenyial faster as well as rise above.
IMHO