New approach...potenciating absortion, avoiding side effects while enhancing recovery

[neurotic]

I think that taking a single oral dose of prohormones and/or steroids AFTER WORKING OUT has these benefits:

1) INCREASED oral bio-availability. After working out absortion is higher.

2) Due to the fact that recovery needs are much higher after a hard workout, you are much more likely to get the maximum anabolic effects at that moment. Simply put: you are going to get much more recovery benefits from a 2-hour window hormone peak levels AFTER a hard workout than at any other moment of the day. Thus, the anabolic/side effects ratio is going to get higher. A narrow window (about 2 hours) of high androgen levels 4-5 days a week is not much likely to give you any undesirable androgenic side effect, but, given the fact that you maintain that high androgen levels precisely when the body needs recovery most(after working out) you are likely to be rewarded with a lot more anabolic effects than side effects.

I'd like to know what you think about this theory.

Thank you.

 

[stonecold54]

well first it is just a hypothesis not a theory but my one point of contention is that if after a workout is the best time for absorption then wouldn't it be better to take your oral a few hours before the workout that way when your workout is done the drug will have peaked. I am not even sure it would matter. for orals I take them twice a day and split the dose. so I always have a constant blood level.

 

[neurotic]

well first it is just a hypothesis not a theory but my one point of contention is that if after a workout is the best time for absorption then wouldn't it be better to take your oral a few hours before the workout that way when your workout is done the drug will have peaked. I am not even sure it would matter. for orals I take them twice a day and split the dose. so I always have a constant blood level.

Nope, because if you did that you wouldn't benefit from increased absortion because for that high oral availability to happen it must be taken AFTER working out.
On the other hand take into account that orals like 4-diol for instance probably maintain a high testosterone level for just two hours after taking it.

 

[neurotic]

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[satchboogie]

very interesting hypothesis..

i'd like to hear expert opinion on this one!

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[abc 1]

wouldn't taking oral test post workout interfere with elevated gh levels that occur after working out. take into account that consuming your postworkout shake too soon (before 30 minutes has elapsed) after training lowers gh levels so the positive effect is negated. i'm thinking that a quick test boost would throw off the hormonal balance that is already taking place. just a thought, not a theory.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Most orals are available for more like 10 hours, so what's the difference if you take it before or after a workout? It'll be doing the same thing.

You're thinking too much.

As far as the 1 test...

 

[Nelson Montana]

Most orals are available for more like 8-10 hours, so what's the difference if you take it before or after a workout? It'll be doing the same thing.

You're thinking too much.

As far as the 1 test...

 

[satchboogie]

well then...

nelson sums it up in less than 20 seconds.

still lets hear some more on this intersting hypothesis...

 

[JonP]

where do you get the idea that orals will be absorbed better post workout?

 

[neurotic]

wouldn't taking oral test post workout interfere with elevated gh levels that occur after working out. take into account that consuming your postworkout shake too soon (before 30 minutes has elapsed) after training lowers gh levels so the positive effect is negated. i'm thinking that a quick test boost would throw off the hormonal balance that is already taking place. just a thought, not a theory.

In fact, it's never too soon to take your post-workout shake. Quite the contrary, you have to take it before 30 minutes have elapsed. The best approach is that of making your last set and IMMEDIATELY drink it. I even take it before having a shower ....
You need insulin levels to get thru the roof as soon as possible along with whey protein and glycogen for your muscles. To hell with gh, it's not anabolic in the first place...

 

[neurotic]

Most orals are available for more like 8-10 hours, so what's the difference if you take it before or after a workout? It'll be doing the same thing.

You're thinking too much.

As far as the 1 test...

Well, if they are available for so long, why is everyone always pointing out the need to take prohormones 3-4 times a day in order to get a sustained delivery?

 

[neurotic]

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[JonP]

where do you get the idea that orals will be absorbed better post workout?

 

[neurotic]

That was just something I read once ... an expert wrote it ...