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[Its All Genetics]

ive just read two post in 5 minutes about people running deca with no test. ive been on this board only a few months and ive seen it said sooooo many times always run deca with test.
i guess people dont learn.

im aout to get into a lil test-deca-dbol cycle.
im running the test 250mg higher than the deca. but heres a question for you
would you shut down harder post cycle if you ran test and deca or just deca?

one would assume the more you use the harder youre going to get shut down.

 

[Throw2Far]

Ive run 600mg Deca without test.... I had amazing results, recovered fairly quickly and had decent sex drive. Depending on the length of your cycle you may or may not be shut down.... If you are planning 12 weeks you won't be any more shutdown by test/deca than deca...

 

[ALIN]

Ive run 600mg Deca without test.... I had amazing results, recovered fairly quickly and had decent sex drive. Depending on the length of your cycle you may or may not be shut down.... If you are planning 12 weeks you won't be any more shutdown by test/deca than deca...

same here. you here it both ways. eveyones results are individual.

 

[Makavelli]

I've always told people to run deca with test. For some reason it's always the newbies that want to run deca only. And they always complain. Anyway, any AAS over what you produce naturally will shut you down. Length of time on and type of AAS, deca being one of the worst, will determine how hard your shut down. Also genetics play a huge role.

 

[monster2929]

really everyone is different , but i always say TEST TO DECA RATIO SHOULD ALWAYS BE 2-1 carve it in stone!!!!!!!!!

 

[hammercurls]

npp? for short cycles

 

[LftHndPwrHouse]

really everyone is different , but i always say TEST TO DECA RATIO SHOULD ALWAYS BE 2-1 carve it in stone!!!!!!!!!

I dont agree with that at all...like said above everyone is different. My test has never went to a 2to1 ratio. I have kept my test way lower then my deca before and was perfectly fine.

You just have to feel your self out with deca!

 

[Bruce]

i along with so many people have no problem running deca alone, right now i am on deca/test e/ and prop to kick off, started last wednesday, but my first cycle was deca for 13 weeks, with winny the last 5. i never had a problem with deca dick. i get an increase in libido on every aas ive done, winny, var, deca, and tbol. tbol and prop blow them all to hell though. on that note i reccomend using the test with deca because its so essential for building muscle, but like i said i gained 22lbs on deca at 600 no test, just hcg 250ius a week with it the libido was fine, no hard recovery either, pct was fine

 

[Makavelli]

i along with so many people have no problem running deca alone, right now i am on deca/test e/ and prop to kick off, started last wednesday, but my first cycle was deca for 13 weeks, with winny the last 5. i never had a problem with deca dick. i get an increase in libido on every aas ive done, winny, var, deca, and tbol. tbol and prop blow them all to hell though. on that note i reccomend using the test with deca because its so essential for building muscle, but like i said i gained 22lbs on deca at 600 no test, just hcg 250ius a week with it the libido was fine, no hard recovery either, pct was fine

You're the exception, not the rule bro. Most guys get shut down hard with deca only.

 

[Its All Genetics]

okay yeah def everyone is different, so are there people out there you can run no pct and still maintain their gains?
everyone says " you have to do this and you need to do this"
are there people out there who could do a week of clomid and then be back to normal test levels. my genetics seem to be this

low to no bloat- off 100mgs of a bombs and test e
little to no gyno- off prop enth, and a bombs
smaller yet more keepable gains in general off my cycles

im gunna try deca and d-bols in october and see how my body re acts to them im hoping not too diff than my response to the other but we shall see. like my name... i think a lot has to do with genetics as far as dosages, training programs.

 

[Bruce]

You're the exception, not the rule bro. Most guys get shut down hard with deca only.

youre right but if you look at the poll on deca dick that we did this summer you'll see that 45% of bros do not experience this, there are multiple bros on here that are the same. however, i am using test now with my deca because of the research i have done telling me that having test in my body is essential for the best results. i'm not one to argue with makavelli the don

 

[Makavelli]

youre right but if you look at the poll on deca dick that we did this summer you'll see that 45% of bros do not experience this, there are multiple bros on here that are the same. however, i am using test now with my deca because of the research i have done telling me that having test in my body is essential for the best results. i'm not one to argue with makavelli the don

True dat...

 

[Throw2Far]

I've always told people to run deca with test. For some reason it's always the newbies that want to run deca only. And they always complain. Anyway, any AAS over what you produce naturally will shut you down. Length of time on and type of AAS, deca being one of the worst, will determine how hard your shut down. Also genetics play a huge role.

What do you mean shut down hard... You are shut down or you are not. There are varying degrees of suppression which can lead to shut down. Not everything will shut you down above your natty.

 

[AMGETR]

Not everyone gets deca dick. Just like not everyone loses hair on some drugs.

 

[asianlover]

just the thought that there is a possibility makes me worried. i dont think i will ever run deca with a higher dose of test. although i dont know if anything could keep me soft. still just not worth chancing it imo.

 

[Makavelli]

What do you mean shut down hard... You are shut down or you are not. There are varying degrees of suppression which can lead to shut down. Not everything will shut you down above your natty.

Go read a physiology book and then come talk to me. You answered your own questions: "What do you mean shut down hard... You are shut down or you are not. There are varying degrees of suppression which can lead to shut down. "