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bulking was basically jus eating and lifting heavy weights low reps. i realized that cutting is ALOT of hard work. what do you guys think about the bowflex?
never knew cutting would be so hard
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cutting is rediculasly difficult.... mentally. Because its all about diet and cardio. 
Bowflex... what?! lol
Bowflex... what?! lol
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petpre61 said:I never got what cardio had to do with cutting.as if cardio is the magic cue for cutting
well let me put it as black and white as I can for you...
cutting is all about DIET and CARDIO, simple. Nothing else.
Im not going to come off as an arrogant ass and start bashing anyone, but seriously if you dont know that, then you really need to re-evaluate how educated you consider yourself in regards to training/lifting/nutrition. And thats as simple as I can put it.
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funny enough that in this thread you havent contributed to the topic at all but bash me for not making a point when I ask!!! why cardio is treated by many as THE secret for cutting successfully.
Sure if you add cardio to your weekly training and stick with your caloric intake (which used to be around maintenance) then you will lose weight. you could also raise your volume or/and lower your caloric intake and you will have the same effect.
If you dont do cardio on a regular base I wouldnt suggest anybody to add cardio b/c (a) your body isnt used this kind of exercise and (b) the body is already lacking its fuel so you hit him hard twice. And in my case I always felt terrible in diet with cardio - I felt like burning out (but maybe this is just me).
i'll contribute when i see the need. you gave no info so what was there to reply to? nothing.
increasing volume while cutting out cardio all together sends a signal to the body to slow the metabolism in response to less output. also when trying to lose the last fat, "brown fat", you need to exercise to activate lypolysis as these fat cells have little to no blood circulation making them nearly impossible to lose. this is where cardio ramps up metabolism and prolongs the fat burning stage. if there is no fat burning process and simply training and low calories your body will hold onto fat. maybe you implemented the calorie restriction and cardio poorly making you feel lethargic. that is a possibility. maybe calories were too low to begin with making fat burning even harder (which i have done in the past, like spinning your wheels and going no where).
cardio is the steeple of cutting because what you can do in 12 weeks with cardio and diet could take three times as long if you allow the body to pace itself. the body always wants homeostasis and the less you do the easier it is to downregulate and reach this state.
increasing volume while cutting out cardio all together sends a signal to the body to slow the metabolism in response to less output. also when trying to lose the last fat, "brown fat", you need to exercise to activate lypolysis as these fat cells have little to no blood circulation making them nearly impossible to lose. this is where cardio ramps up metabolism and prolongs the fat burning stage. if there is no fat burning process and simply training and low calories your body will hold onto fat. maybe you implemented the calorie restriction and cardio poorly making you feel lethargic. that is a possibility. maybe calories were too low to begin with making fat burning even harder (which i have done in the past, like spinning your wheels and going no where).
cardio is the steeple of cutting because what you can do in 12 weeks with cardio and diet could take three times as long if you allow the body to pace itself. the body always wants homeostasis and the less you do the easier it is to downregulate and reach this state.
isnt the post exercise oxygen consumption higher after weight lifting thus having a greater influence on metabolic rate?
to effectively using fatty acids as an energy source you need to do prolonged cardio session (60+ minutes)
this doesnt make sense to me - allow the body to pace what? downregulating the metabolism?
to effectively using fatty acids as an energy source you need to do prolonged cardio session (60+ minutes)
this doesnt make sense to me - allow the body to pace what? downregulating the metabolism?
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oo thanks alot guys. ive been using the bowflex sport . bought it in june. and hopefully with a lttle help from winy, it will get me where i want
If I had such generous fat depositions like tweakle (well, I can see at least 6 of them in his avatar) I would need cardio too 
if you give the body no reason to burn fat except weight training and lower calories your body will dictate at what rate it drops bf. really not that confusing. you'll plateau fast as hell without cardio and not give your body any reason to burn fat.
weight training increases your metabolism for around 24 hours post exercise, some say less, some say longer. i think if you've been training for a long time its on the lower end because of adaptation. without cardio and only training the metabolic boost wouldnt account for a week - lets say 4 days training that 96 hours of increased metabolic rate. with cardio (depending on the type, duration, and frequency) will boost the fat burning process everyday to an extent.
weight training increases your metabolism for around 24 hours post exercise, some say less, some say longer. i think if you've been training for a long time its on the lower end because of adaptation. without cardio and only training the metabolic boost wouldnt account for a week - lets say 4 days training that 96 hours of increased metabolic rate. with cardio (depending on the type, duration, and frequency) will boost the fat burning process everyday to an extent.
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