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bigmusclehead

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hypothetical question here bros ,lets say u have been diagnosed with low test and u will be on testosterone now for the rest of your life.if a person is looking to take advantage of this and increase the doctors reccemended doseage from lets say 400mgs a month to 500mg a week or more and add some d-bol say 30mg for a kicker and also some eq and then come down from this cycle lets say 10 wks back to the original doctors doseage would u need any pct considering your shut down for life?ideas please
 
No, you wouldn't need PCT, as you'd just be dropping back to a normal replacement dosage. I've seen plenty of older guys run it this way. Some run HCG periodically to keep testicular volume high, some don't. Hypothetically, it works fine... though I hope the dr. is going to give you replacement shots on a weekly or bi-weekly basis, once per month will have your levels fluctuating far too much.
 
bigmuscle, I am in the same situation. I am on HRT. My test levels never came back after abusing gear many years ago. Now I just stay on year round and don't come off. No, there is no need to do PCT. What for? To return back to your own shitty test leves and lose everything you worked so hard to work for? When I'm actually on gear, I'm using shit like Tren,d-bol, winny, higher amounts of GH etc etc. When I'm off all I use is 500mgs of Test per week. Test is test and it doesnt hurt me at all. I don't lose hair, I don't get sever aggresion, I don't get acne etc etc. Oh! And I do not get high blood pressure and very minimal water retention. I just got bloodwork done a few weeks back and when i got the results in both the doc and I were impressed. Shit! I was so impressed I showed it to THX9000 on this board. He too was impressed on how great my bloodwork was. :)
 
Carth said:
bigmuscle, I am in the same situation. I am on HRT. My test levels never came back after abusing gear many years ago. Now I just stay on year round and don't come off. No, there is no need to do PCT. What for? To return back to your own shitty test leves and lose everything you worked so hard to work for? When I'm actually on gear, I'm using shit like Tren,d-bol, winny, higher amounts of GH etc etc. When I'm off all I use is 500mgs of Test per week. Test is test and it doesnt hurt me at all. I don't lose hair, I don't get sever aggresion, I don't get acne etc etc. Oh! And I do not get high blood pressure and very minimal water retention. I just got bloodwork done a few weeks back and when i got the results in both the doc and I were impressed. Shit! I was so impressed I showed it to THX9000 on this board. He too was impressed on how great my bloodwork was. :)
wow thats great man not even any cholesterol issues?
 
Not at all! No high blood pressure, no acne, no hairloss, no oily skin blah blah blah. Just go to know how to take care of yourself.
 
AMGETR said:
Carth: Is the test doctor prescribed?

Fucker had me on 450mgs of Androgel per month for $50!!!
Why pay that much for so little when I can use 2000mgs per month for $64? by getting my own gear.
 
Carth said:
bigmuscle, I am in the same situation. I am on HRT. My test levels never came back after abusing gear many years ago.


Can you elaborate on what mistakes you made that shut you down for good. You don't look that old, if that is you in your avatar.
 
Of course that is me. Who else? What mistakes? Taking too much gear for 2 years straight with no HCG usage during. that pretty much fucked me over. Did PCT really hard up to 3 times after the gear usage. It took around 6 months of PCT and never came bck to normal.

Dude!!! The avatar...please! change it
 
Bein in my 5th week on test and EQ i did not get my test levels and blood work done- what do i do- run Chlomid and assume it will return to regular levels then before next cycle be wise and get them checked so i know what is normal for me?

Newb still learnin thanks to the fellow bro's!
 
Carth said:
Of course that is me. Who else? What mistakes? Taking too much gear for 2 years straight with no HCG usage during. that pretty much fucked me over. Did PCT really hard up to 3 times after the gear usage. It took around 6 months of PCT and never came bck to normal.

Dude!!! The avatar...please! change it
i know, everytime i see bradleys avi, it gives me a creepy ass feeling...
 
Carth said:
Of course that is me. Who else? What mistakes? Taking too much gear for 2 years straight with no HCG usage during. that pretty much fucked me over. Did PCT really hard up to 3 times after the gear usage. It took around 6 months of PCT and never came bck to normal.

Dude!!! The avatar...please! change it


Did you do a baseline test before starting gear? Because if you didn't then you may have had low test to begin with and you may have needed HRT anyway, which is a good thing cause you would have known that you did not fuck yourself over, it would have been nice just for the peace of mind, i guess.
 
My test levels were fine. At least I think so. I had a good sex drive and confidence was up and so was my strength.
 
AMGETR said:
I'm running a 6 month cycle soon. Should I run PCT half way through, you think Carth?

I am not the one to truly answer that. As you can see my lack of knowledge years ago fucked me over. Now I have to stay on HRT. I just decided to jack up the HRT to more of a "never coming off" cycle.

You should ask Needsize. He should be able to help you out with your question. But to be honest, I don't see why not. Maybe 2 1/2 months on and 1 month PCT and then back onto your cycle and then another PCT at the end.
 
I am on HRT because of very low Test.
Just did a bulking cycle and ready to start PCT.
Do I need to?
Mayby just drop down to 400 test and 200 Deca per week?!?!?
Any advice greatly appreciated.
Supposed to start Nolvadex today.
Thanks
 
I always make sure I use hcg at 500iu 2x weekly all the way through my cycles, and have yet to do any permanent damage
 
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