Nelson, your opinion on this "customized" cycle

[Anakin]

As you know, I tried the 3 week approach (primo-low dose test-dbol) and I discovered that even the smallest dose of AAS used for the shortest period will shut me down. I say shut me down and not suppress me because I think my test levels were like 80 something a month after the cycle ended.
Therefore, I believe that if I am going to give steroids another chance, I might as well go for 6 weeks and get more gains.

I was thinking:
1-6: test prop 100 eod
1-4: dbol 30mg/day
5-6: dbol 20mg/day
winny 30mg/day
1-6: hcg 500iu/week (because my nuts shrink fast)

weekly dose of AAS amounts to 500-700mg.

A-dex: 1/2mg eod? i have no idea...
nolva: will keep some at hand just in case gyno comes along, but I didn't use any anti-e's the last time and I was fine.
i am set on my pct, which will be a little hcg followed by clomid and the herbals which i take year-round (amazing stuff).

Notes:
1) Because I get shut down, I might need a relatively higher dose. I will have no natural test in my system, so if you say that 200mg test a week raises your test levels to 900ng/dL (or whatever the units are), the same dose of test would raise my test levels to 400-500ng/dL (nothing to "add on to").

2) Is it that bad to run dbol for 6 weeks? I'm doing this because I have A LOT of dbol at hand and I don't want to buy more winny.

Any comments are appreciated and questions are welcomed.

 

[The_Chemist]

Yep...I did a three weeker consisting of fast acting drugs, and it shut me down like Britney Spears at the bar.

 

[Nelson Montana]

B the way, how'd you do on the short cycle in terms of gains.

This is a tough one to call. If a low androgen cycle for 3 weeks knocked your T level down to 80, you're obviously very sensitive. There's no telling what a stronger cycle will do, but if you're game...

6 weeks of d-bol is a lot, but 20 mgs is reasonable. Just like you never know how the HPTA will react, you don't know how much the liver can tolerate. Stay aware of side effects.

1/2 EOD of A-dex? Hmmm, try 1/2mg every 3 days.

The HCG looks good.Again, normally it would be too much but you got atrophy with low doses.

It seems like you're taking every precaution possible. You may still crash, but it may not be that bad. And you may need HRT sooner than later, but see how it goes. Train hard. Be careful. Have fun. And let us know how it goes.

 

[Anakin]

Thanks again Nelson.

Weren't the "old-timers" running dbol for long periods, since it was their main drug?

In terms of gains I did pretty well. The funny thing is that about 3 weeks after the cycle ended I started looking more and more ripped (without any dieting or any other changes) and I looked my best ever. Then at some point I crashed and I lost substantial amounts of mass, but I gained much of it back just training and eating once my natural test levels recovered. This year I have kept a leaner look.

My problem is that my genes mandate that I be skinny... I have been sick for a week now (horrible flu), and I swear I look so much worse than last week, and it's not just in my mind because I can tell my the way clothes fit me too. I can't wait to be healthy again to start training and eating properly (I have zero appetite with this flu).