Needtogetaas....JAM....Okay, I'll bite

[magman1]

Alright brotha, think I'm going to place an order
From the bat, I am a bit skeptical, as you are a board sponsor and also a mod, so obviously there will be a lot of self-promotion...but if your shit works as stated, all is good.
I've just seen many sponsors in my 6 years on here that were praised as the next best thing, and once they stopped paying the advertising bills, all of a sudden their products were shit

I guess I've seen enough feedback, and itching to try something new, that I'll give yourself a go....hopefully you, or others with experience with your products can give a little advice

Me:
210, about 9-10% bf, 25 years old, 7-8 years strength training...diet and program def in check, have a few injuries holding me back from where I would ultimately like to be, but it is what it is (hit by car, sports related, etc) I've cut down and def gotten much leaner...I was at about 225...lost some decent strenght, but much happier the way I look now....it was tough to work on Wall Street looking like an asshole who couldn't move his neck--no offense to guys who look like assholes that can't move their necks hahaha jk!
Looking to hit something that will put on absolutely NO sloppy weight...I don't want water weight that makes me look smooth or will make me gain size / strength and lose it as soon as I come off....I'm shying away from the real deal AAS b/c can't take all the ups and downs of coming on / off and don't have a desire to be "on" 6 months or more out of the year....I want gains to keep

Thinking the monsterdrol / cyclo-tren....like to know your thoughts or if you could lay something out for me

For others, I will provide a god's to honest truth about the quality I feel of these products....take it for what it's worth which is the paper it is printed on (absolutely nothing) but I will give a totally neutral opinion, I have absolutely no affiliation with JAM or the powers to be at EF....I've been around along time and seen a lot of shit and definitely have no quams about speaking the truth as this board should be a FREE flow of information

Thanks for the time brothas, rock on

 

[SouthernLord]

Monstedrol is not Needto's product. It is actually branded by JAM. It is their in house SD clone. I have not ran it, but I have used Cyclotren. You will not be disappointed by either product. Btw... Both are oral AAS. Make sure you have a proper PCT lined up and some on cycle support supps. AI's life support is a good support supp.

 

[brandonp005]

i'm currently running the monsterdrol/cyclotren stack. i'm in no way affiliated with the production or promotion of either of the products. from my experience with these products, they rock!

 

[goal200]

Hey mag, no disrespect meant cuz you've been here longer than me and I just started posting again but...these compounds ARE steroids and you have to cycle them, shit, even MORE carefully than injects cuz they are orals and extremely strong ones at that. Many of the "legal test boosters" today are crazy effective and also will shut you down as fast as test. I'm sure when you said "I'm shying away from the real deal AAS b/c can't take all the ups and downs of coming on / off and don't have a desire to be "on" 6 months or more out of the year....I want gains to keep" you weren't assuming that oral prohormones are an easy way around the sides of AAS and PCT??! I would use much more liver support on a 4 week mdrol/ctren cycle than on 50mg/day dbol cycle.

I hope the stuff works for you and I look forward to reading your honest thread about the effects bro!

 

[magman1]

Hey brotha, thanks for pointing that out actually about some of these products producing sides that mirror AAS....I actually ordered M1 Test from the UK a few months ago and had to stop taking after about 2 weeks because of how shitty it made me feel....and I've had experience with test a few times, winny, eq, and even tren...all moderate / modest cycles, but regardless, was able to make it through on these products but couldn't stomach the effects of M1 Test....but in the same regard makes me wonder if it's worth the sides without producing same results

Also, I guess Needto would be able to respond most effectively here....would any of these products have a bad mixing effect with adderall? I am taking that now (legally, doctor prescribed) so curious about that...thanks again bros

 

[magman1]

fuck bro, now I"m reading about this cyclobolan / ppex....now is your time to sell me....what's the order I should put in?? Put a few things together for me

 

[needtogetaas]

fuck bro, now I"m reading about this cyclobolan / ppex....now is your time to sell me....what's the order I should put in?? Put a few things together for me

I would go with the mosterdrol pplex mix. Also get a cycle support.
Adding dermacrine has worked out great for a lot of people.


Just remember you do have to do pct after a cycle bro. It is real aas and monsterdrol is prob one of the strongest out of both legal and e-legal aas.

I would use a Testosterone Recovery Stack for pct. You can get with me for a discount on that to.


Bro I made mod because of the members of ef. Because they mad me mod. They made me mod because I work for them. If something is not good my name is not going on it.

I would never tell people to use it. This has been proven many times.

 

[magman1]

Sounds good brotha...and why go with the ppx vs cyclo tren or havoc? What kind of results would I expect with the former vs. latter?

Thanks

 

[needtogetaas]

Sounds good brotha...and why go with the ppx vs cyclo tren or havoc? What kind of results would I expect with the former vs. latter?

Thanks

O shit I thought they were out of the cyclo tren. If they have that then go with that. I myself went with just monsterdrol. I loved it. Now I know others have used cyclotren and loved it and most people I know have been using them both together.

I need to go and pull up the active compounds in all to explain better but the monster and the cyclo work great together.

Its like dht and nandro mix.

 

[IncredibleHoss]

195 to 210. im not at week 4 yet

Doing cyclo havoc 3 cyclo ed/2 havoc
Bench went up from 185-4 225- 3

 

[the_alcatraz]

I'm starting my monsterdrol cycle today. I'll let you guys know my feedback.

 

[Omegasox]

I have used Cyclotren and Monsterdrol separately, and without a doubt recommend Monsterdrol. Strength went up substantially with minimal sides (Lethargy and some sort joints for me). It is a STRONG compound. You will need a full PCT.

I am one of the few who cannot fully endorse Cyclotren. I didn't see the results others have, and discontinued use about 2/3 of the way through my planned cycle. I am definitely one of the few, though, so take it for what it's worth.

 

[bobby716]

i am starting a monsterdrol, cyclotren, dermatcine, phytotest cycle up at the end of the month. anyone run teh same cycle? results?

 

[jwo02]

I ran two weeks of phytotest solo and that's the first time I ever remember seeing veins in my shoulders, so I guess it does at least a little something. Would like to know how it woulda went if I ran it the whole four weeks.


Thinking about using the other half bottle now just to see if I can get anything from it.

 

[mphowells]

I assume as the compounds being used are 'legal' it's ok to ask where can I get cyclotren and havoc.

 

[needtogetaas]

I ran two weeks of phytotest solo and that's the first time I ever remember seeing veins in my shoulders, so I guess it does at least a little something. Would like to know how it woulda went if I ran it the whole four weeks.


Thinking about using the other half bottle now just to see if I can get anything from it.

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[Just Add Muscle]

I assume as the compounds being used are 'legal' it's ok to ask where can I get cyclotren and havoc.

Yes they are 100% legal still bro. You can get them from us on my signature.

 

[Improvise]

I have used Cyclotren and Monsterdrol separately, and without a doubt recommend Monsterdrol. Strength went up substantially with minimal sides (Lethargy and some sort joints for me). It is a STRONG compound. You will need a full PCT.

I am one of the few who cannot fully endorse Cyclotren. I didn't see the results others have, and discontinued use about 2/3 of the way through my planned cycle. I am definitely one of the few, though, so take it for what it's worth.

I experienced similar results with Cyclotren. Basically a lack of results. I even stacked it with havoc and didn't feel it.

I have done a lot of PH's and I've ran Primordial's PCT stack twice now.

I'm going to try masterdrol before I resort to gear, but I am getting really sick and tired of being so disappointed with the PH's that so many people vouch for around here.

 

[Just Add Muscle]

I experienced similar results with Cyclotren. Basically a lack of results. I even stacked it with havoc and didn't feel it.

I have done a lot of PH's and I've ran Primordial's PCT stack twice now.

I'm going to try masterdrol before I resort to gear, but I am getting really sick and tired of being so disappointed with the PH's that so many people vouch for around here.

Bro if you got no results from Cyclotren and Havoc stacked dont waste your money on Monsterdrol because I seriously doubt you will get much better gains than with the other 2. With the Cyclotren/Havoc stack you should have definitely seen anywhere from a 6-12 lb gain in lean muscle while changing body composition. If you saw nothing then there could be another issue that monsterdrol will not resolve.

 

[FuzzyGophar]

I am on week 5 of 6 of a Havoc, Cyclotren, Dermacrine cycle and I gotta say this shit is legit. I am up about 12 pounds and bench went from 225 x 5 to 225 x 10 and all my other lifts are up significantly. I ordered from JAM and it came fast and accurate.

 

[needtogetaas]

I am on week 5 of 6 of a Havoc, Cyclotren, Dermacrine cycle and I gotta say this shit is legit. I am up about 12 pounds and bench went from 225 x 5 to 225 x 10 and all my other lifts are up significantly. I ordered from JAM and it came fast and accurate.

Next time you order from any of them places get with me first for a discount.