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utahdiesel
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"How long before you workout"... what do you mean by that??? I sure as hell hope you don't mean that you've never worked out before. If that's the case, forget about it. Don't use it at all. If you meant how long do you take it before your workout... then you need to stick around, read, and get A LOT more knowledgeable about just what the hell it is you're going to do.
dsh89
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This guy is gonna end up a news story. Bro, number one, you are too young to even think about using. Number 2, you do not know anything about it. Would you just eat some mushrooms you found growing in the forest? No? Well, why not? Oh they might be poisonous! You do not just go putting something in your body that you know absolutely nothing about. Number 3, you obviously have not exhausted the natural aspects of bodybuilding and dieting and cardio, so juice is out of the question for you anyways.
There is no way you should even consider using thisd stuff at this point bro. You have a lot to learn and a long way to go before it is an option. I am not coming down on you but giving you the truth.
There is no way you should even consider using thisd stuff at this point bro. You have a lot to learn and a long way to go before it is an option. I am not coming down on you but giving you the truth.
CaddysNJuice
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25% bF?!@?!?!?! My suggestion, your too fat to use Aas yet. Get into cardio before trying to use juice. It sounds to me like you just bought some chemicle you THINK is test 400(which is rare) and you are ready to stick it into your body. You have alot to learn brotherman. First off, even though bruce suggests the use of hcg, it is not necessary for the first cycle, which in your case looks to be test only.
Keith, first off, get around 100 nolvadex pills. These you will use when your test starts kicking in and your nipples hurt. It will also help return your testies to natural functuion, as well as clomid. But really, for a mild first cycle, you really only need nolvadex and some creatine. I would also reccomend you taking 5-6 weeks worth of dbol to kickstart the test. take 25-30 mg a day for 6 weeks, then stop. Or, if your piss is dark yellow or it hurts to pee, stop using dbol. That is a sign of liver degeneration.
Test 400 was not your best choice to buy for your first cycle. Most first cycles consist of dbol at 25-40 mg a day and 500 mg of test per week. You could take a monday thursday shot of 1/2cc of your test 400, which is 200 mg. totaling 400 mg a week. Or take 1 cc on monday and thursday and have a total of 800mg. But do nothing more than that for your first time. But for real, read,read,read, and listen to what others say, or you will be fitted for a bra! GL
Keith, first off, get around 100 nolvadex pills. These you will use when your test starts kicking in and your nipples hurt. It will also help return your testies to natural functuion, as well as clomid. But really, for a mild first cycle, you really only need nolvadex and some creatine. I would also reccomend you taking 5-6 weeks worth of dbol to kickstart the test. take 25-30 mg a day for 6 weeks, then stop. Or, if your piss is dark yellow or it hurts to pee, stop using dbol. That is a sign of liver degeneration.
Test 400 was not your best choice to buy for your first cycle. Most first cycles consist of dbol at 25-40 mg a day and 500 mg of test per week. You could take a monday thursday shot of 1/2cc of your test 400, which is 200 mg. totaling 400 mg a week. Or take 1 cc on monday and thursday and have a total of 800mg. But do nothing more than that for your first time. But for real, read,read,read, and listen to what others say, or you will be fitted for a bra! GL
CaddysNJuice
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Guys, everyone telling him he is to young WILL NOT stop him. You are all just keeping valuable info from him, which could prove to be worse than if we told him the RIGHT way.......75% of the guys on here started at 18 or shit, some started younger. It the cettle calling the pot black. We need to stop being hypocritical and help these people out when they ask. Because, evidently, the care enough to try and find the correct way to do things.
maxpain
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CaddysNJuice said:
You right it won't. But,I am going to encourage him either. Telling him how to do it. In my eyes is condoning/encouraging it. If he does not know how and he hears that enough ( to wait) he might reconsider his choices. But by telling him is encouraging his usage.
CaddysNJuice said:
And your assesment of 75% here started at 18 or earlier is probably wrong also.
CaddysNJuice said:
The ONLY advise that I have for a 18yr. old is to wait. If he wants to know how. Come back when you are older and MUCH wiser.
CaddysNJuice
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if i were a plat member (not paying shit)... then i would start a poll.... You will be baffeled at how many ppl started at 18 or younger, TRUTHFULLY....
maxpain
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CaddysNJuice said:
Dude that poll has been done here before. I can assure you that you are wrong.
Just make a thread no poll needed and make it a two part poll/thread.
1. When did you start juicing?
2. Do you condone 18yr old's juicing?
I think you will be VERY VERY surprised the responses you get. Especially if you think it's ok.
CaddysNJuice
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I dont think it is ok, honestly, but im fighting for this because i think it a person free will to decide what they want to put into their bodies to make them feel better about their looks. It is our place, as people who use and have used for a while, to steer anyone who is dead-set on using, in the right direction. All of these people saying, "your too young" or "not expirenced enough" will just push the stong willed to do what everyone is telling them not to. It did me.... But luckily, i met some nice people that helped me develope a gread diet, workout routine and stack. I feel that if people feel thet a person posing a question reguarding to the SAFE USE is too young or not ready, keep it to yourself, because in the end, it will fuel the fire in ANY man...... young or old.
maxpain
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CaddysNJuice said:
When your "looks" are more important that your over all health short term and long term. Your an idiot.
CaddysNJuice said:
BULLSHIT !!! NOT USING AT 18 YEARS OLD IS THE RIGHT DIRECTION !!!
Then there you go. If you are NOT MATURE enough to listen to others who tell you to wait BECAUSE they ARE EXPERIENCED. Then you are a fuckin idiot. This is NOT A GAME. This is stuff will seriously fuck you up FOR LIFE !!!CaddysNJuice said:
CaddysNJuice said:
It's not about being nice or being mean. It's about waiting. At 18 you have your whole life to use.
CaddysNJuice said:
Well, it's obvious you are young yourself.
Here's a little life help:
Most older people are not like that. You know why??? Because they have the maturity and experience in life to listen to others. They are not fuckin hardheaded like most teenagers are and think they have the whole world figured out.
CaddysNJuice
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Im 23, young to most old 40 year olds, but i am very dedicated to what I do. I for one, dont think it is wise for an 18 yr old to do it either. BUT, they will. No matter what, and thats the point im trying to make. We might as well help them do it right man. Your missing what i am trying to say. EF is infamous for these flammings and bashings. Maybe if this wasent a google-able site, then you would get all these newbies in here. Because i know, alot of the other boards im on, arnt easily found on the net. But since it IS.... people of all ages and walks of life come here for help and guidence. Max, you have your own right to think that 18 is too young for use. But in reality, some men dont produce as much test as other, or have thyroid problems or for one reason or another just cant gain weight. Yes, after further reading Keiths posts, i feel he isnt ready either. But, i bet 50 grand that he isn gping to do it anyway. I would rather see a person use the correct way, rather than he fuck himself up and then his parents find out what website he was on. Then the shit hits the fan. If this kid tries juice, fucks himself up , and the poliece get called after finding this site in the kids net history, you think ANYONE on this site is going to be safe anymore?
maxpain
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CaddysNJuice said:
NO caddy's this is where to tell them to wait. That is being the more mature of the two. It's your responsibility as someone who is older and little wiser to tell this or other kids to wait. There are other aveneus they can take at 18 years old that will help them just as much as juice. Just because you feel they are going to do it anyways is crazy. You can't be of help to them in ways of using juice. Help them in other ways.
CaddysNJuice said:
But NOT at 18 years old.
CaddysNJuice said:
Then they need to go to the doctor NOT a board. The info they get here could make their conditions worse or potentially put their life in danger.
CaddysNJuice said:
Caddys' my man that is crazy thinking.
Your right he might do it anyways. But you can't be his help. As far as him visiting this site. You know what: IF NO ONE HELPS HIM. HE WILL MOVE ON TO ANOTHER SITE !!!
As far as safe. Caddy's you will be in the most danger. If this kid does do something stupid and the law gets involved. He will sing like a canary. And he will say "yeah, caddysnjuice helped me" Who think they will come after. You got YOU !!! If you tell him to go on. You know what he will move on and forget all about caddysnjuice.
Think of it like this. What if you do help him and he STILL fucks himself up? Do you want that? Or would you rather tell him. Dude, I think you are too young you will have to go to someone else for advise.
CaddysNJuice
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noted. thank you for being civil in this debate. It is a rarity on ef anymore....
drrman
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i can see both sides of this honestly, i mean we can tell them to wait but we all know if they have access to the gear, and they are already here then most likely they are going to do it rather they have our blessing or not.......I WILL say that if somone that young came to me and said "no matter what you tell me im going to do this" then i would gladly help them do it in a safe way
kmoe42
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i think the guy meant should he work out before or after he shoots up.. u know like in the morning or afternoon... i dont think he is sayin should he start workin out for the first time in his life before or after he takes juice or i hope not cuz hes in more trouble than i could imagine
CaddysNJuice
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Shit, in all honesty, when i FIRST heard about steroids, i though they just made you grow. I was dumb at once and asked that same question. "Do you need to workout to grow from steroids" Common, not all of us are born with a wealth of knowledge about aas. There is a right and wrong answer to that though, intrestingly enough. You can grow on juice without working out, but it is ALL water. But thats about the extent of growing without working out.
Like i said, i was the same way as this kid. I started at 19, and had alot of the same questions. Luckily i found some people on here, and other boards to help me. Unfortunatlly, Satch was the man who "gave me the tools to grow". and my first cycle was semi bogus. The sustanon and naps were great, but his GTP deca was BUNK AS FUCK.
Like i said, i was the same way as this kid. I started at 19, and had alot of the same questions. Luckily i found some people on here, and other boards to help me. Unfortunatlly, Satch was the man who "gave me the tools to grow". and my first cycle was semi bogus. The sustanon and naps were great, but his GTP deca was BUNK AS FUCK.
