need suggestions from some vets

[F_Castle_82]

I have dieted down from 240 to 205 bf approx. 14% I want to gain as much lean muscle as possible but my main goal is to lose as much bf as possible. i have been reading cycle logs/ suggestions for some time now and i think the best cycle would be

75-100mgs Tren ED
75mgs prop Eod

12 weeks

i did a "cycle" 4 years ago but 1 10ml bottle of prop lasted me 6 weeks. so this would be my first serious cycle. so please help

 

[krishna]

Dude if you're gonna run it 12 weeks then use long esters. If you want to do that much tren then do 500mgs of tren e and 250 to 375mgs of test e a week for 12 weeks.

 

[rakasha681]

^^^^^

But if its your first run with tren, you probably do want to use tren ace, if you have problems with sides, easier to fix. Cycle should be 8 weeks with just those 2.

An alternate cycle suggestion for what you want to do would be

wk 1-12 50mg test prop ED
wk 1-8 50mg tren ace ED
wk 9-12 50mg winny ED

 

[digit0x]

^^^^^

But if its your first run with tren, you probably do want to use tren ace, if you have problems with sides, easier to fix. Cycle should be 8 weeks with just those 2.

An alternate cycle suggestion for what you want to do would be

wk 1-12 50mg test prop ED
wk 1-8 50mg tren ace ED
wk 9-12 50mg winny ED

good call. even still it seems like just 500 test-e/week would really hook this guy up too... especially at only 2nd cycle, from which was 4 years ago(assuming).

 

[solidspine]

wk 1-12 50mg test prop ED
wk 1-8 50mg tren ace ED
wk 9-12 50mg winny ED

This seems to be a much better approach,



You could also save a lot pain in the butt by switching to Test E or Test C

 

[rakasha681]

good call. even still it seems like just 500 test-e/week would really hook this guy up too... especially at only 2nd cycle, from which was 4 years ago(assuming).

Yeah, he would probably do great on 500mg test e, but mostly, when people read about tren, and decide thats what they want, theres no turning them away from it, so i gave up a long time ago

You cant blame them, there is nothing else out thre like tren.. nothing is better for body recomposition. Along with the proper diet and draining, its one of the easiest AAS to be able to build lean quality mass, while still cutting a good amount of bf% .

the biggest problem with tren is, just like deca, some people cant touch it without leaky titties. and with fina kits the binders are bad on your liver.

 

[krishna]

You guys are recommending 12 weeks of ed pokes to a guy on his second cycle? Fuck that dude! Get some tren e and some test e and stick 2x a week at most.

 

[rakasha681]

You guys are recommending 12 weeks of ed pokes to a guy on his second cycle? Fuck that dude! Get some tren e and some test e and stick 2x a week at most.

*shrug* my second cycled was tren a test prop for 8 wks... some ppl take ED pokes better then others. But definitely a valid point, the only reason i suggested what i did, is i wouldnt recomend running tren enan as a first run with tren.... lets see if i can revise that a little, tren sides will usually show within 10 days if they are going to be bad at what dosage your taking.. sooo....

Wk 1-2 Tren a 75mg ED
wk 1-4 test prop 50mg ED
Wk 1-12 test E 500mg/wk
wk 3-12 tren E 500mg/wk

the reason i had the winny in there, was the tren would clear as the winny is kicking in, you dont want to run compounds that youve never done before together, but since the enan wont clear, id leave it out of this one. That should work well to see if you have any tren problems before switching over to enan, and you only have ED pokes for 4 weeks.

 

[krishna]

*shrug* my second cycled was tren a test prop for 8 wks... some ppl take ED pokes better then others. But definitely a valid point, the only reason i suggested what i did, is i wouldnt recomend running tren enan as a first run with tren.... lets see if i can revise that a little, tren sides will usually show within 10 days if they are going to be bad at what dosage your taking.. sooo....

Wk 1-2 Tren a 75mg ED
wk 1-4 test prop 50mg ED
Wk 1-12 test E 500mg/wk
wk 3-12 tren E 500mg/wk

the reason i had the winny in there, was the tren would clear as the winny is kicking in, you dont want to run compounds that youve never done before together, but since the enan wont clear, id leave it out of this one. That should work well to see if you have any tren problems before switching over to enan, and you only have ED pokes for 4 weeks.

Well done.

 

[F_Castle_82]

thanks for the advice i think i will stay with the tren ace but only for 8 weeks 50 mgs ed and test dunno yet though i am gonna do alot more research before i decide