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Need Strength and Endurance; Superdrol? AG-Guys?

Road Weazel

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What would you recommend? I am new in the state and am NOT going to go to the Base gym and ask all the biggest guys if they can get Test. They might know, but they're probably also MP's. I've lost weight (down from about 205 to 180) to help with the push-ups and run but it's not enough.
So... If you could only get Superdrol or go though AG what would you get? Any other places to look? I've researched most of AG-Guys products (their Clen works great!) and I'm quite confused.
I'm currently taking Tribulus and DHEA, Clen or an ECA stack and R-ALA (along with a good Multi, Calcium, Glucosomine, MSM and Hyaluronic Acid). Some days I add Yohimbe.
The choices from AG are;
Aromasin
Clomid
Arimidex
Femara
Nolvadex
Finasteride
T3
It seems like Clomid might be what I want but my research only refers to it as something to go on after a cycle of steroids to keep Test levels up. Since I'm not doing steroids would it still help elevate my Test levels?
Thanx for helping the :newbie: !
 
AG guys are great for PCT products but not AAS if thats what you are looking for. Do a little research first and figure out what you want and then ask more specific questions and I am sure you can get good advice. Don't ask for sources on an open discussion as you will get bombed out of here in a hurry.

Are you looking to bulk / cut / lean out?
Have you been on before?
What are your stats?
Do you have your workouts and diet in check?

These are all things you need to provide in order for us to help you out.

PM me for more info
 
Thanx for the quick reply.
First, I AM NOT LOOKING FOR SOURCES. I'm not even really looking for AAS but if a stack was to fall in my lap I'd probably run it. I'm in VA now, a long way from Mexico or Canada so making a run for the border is out. I'm looking for the products that I can get from AG or bodybuilding.com that will give me something close to the results I need.
Let me try to give more details. I don't really need to get huge but I would like to be a little bigger and lose the little bit of belly I have left. I'm 38 years old, 5' 11" and about 180 now, medium to large frame. The wife sez I'm too skinny (she's a healthy girl and she likes healthy boys) so I'd like to add some to the chest and arms. I'd like to stay about this weight, maybe add about 10 to 15 pounds of muscle. I've never had a washboard stomach but I'd like to get one once in my life. I'm not entering any contests and I don't want to get too big as my knees don't care for the impact from running and being too much heavier will just add to the problem.
I need to be stronger and have more endurance. Mass is not the primary concern here. I will work the cardio and overall workouts in the gym and they've got plenty of push-ups and sit-ups around here to work those muscle groups. I can do about 45 push-ups and 45 sit-ups right now.
I've never run AAS before but I've used oral Clen for about 3 months in a 2 week on, 2 week off cycle. ECA stack between Clen cycles.
I've been working out for about a year steady but my workouts were cut off recently for about a month due to two minor operations and a week of travel. I'm back into it now. My diet is as much in check as it's going to be for eating in an Army chow hall. Staying away from the processed sugars (except for a qt. of Gatorade post workout and a little syrup occasionally) and trying to keep the fat lower (NOT always easy). Lotsa carbs from rice or potatoes. Trying to keep the breads to a minimum. Protien shake made with coffee first thing in the AM before PT. I don't drink and don't smoke cigarettes. I have about 2 to 3 cigars a week.
As I stated earlier, I take Trib and DHEA for strength, ECA or Clen for fat burn, multi , R-ALA and basic joint supplements.
Thank you again.


1392477 said:
AG guys are great for PCT products but not AAS if thats what you are looking for. Do a little research first and figure out what you want and then ask more specific questions and I am sure you can get good advice. Don't ask for sources on an open discussion as you will get bombed out of here in a hurry.

Are you looking to bulk / cut / lean out?
Have you been on before?
What are your stats?
Do you have your workouts and diet in check?

These are all things you need to provide in order for us to help you out.

PM me for more info
 
Road Weazel said:
Thanx for the quick reply.
First, I AM NOT LOOKING FOR SOURCES. I'm not even really looking for AAS but if a stack was to fall in my lap I'd probably run it. I'm in VA now, a long way from Mexico or Canada so making a run for the border is out. I'm looking for the products that I can get from AG or bodybuilding.com that will give me something close to the results I need.
Let me try to give more details. I don't really need to get huge but I would like to be a little bigger and lose the little bit of belly I have left. I'm 38 years old, 5' 11" and about 180 now, medium to large frame. The wife sez I'm too skinny (she's a healthy girl and she likes healthy boys) so I'd like to add some to the chest and arms. I'd like to stay about this weight, maybe add about 10 to 15 pounds of muscle. I've never had a washboard stomach but I'd like to get one once in my life. I'm not entering any contests and I don't want to get too big as my knees don't care for the impact from running and being too much heavier will just add to the problem.
I need to be stronger and have more endurance. Mass is not the primary concern here. I will work the cardio and overall workouts in the gym and they've got plenty of push-ups and sit-ups around here to work those muscle groups. I can do about 45 push-ups and 45 sit-ups right now.
I've never run AAS before but I've used oral Clen for about 3 months in a 2 week on, 2 week off cycle. ECA stack between Clen cycles.
I've been working out for about a year steady but my workouts were cut off recently for about a month due to two minor operations and a week of travel. I'm back into it now. My diet is as much in check as it's going to be for eating in an Army chow hall. Staying away from the processed sugars (except for a qt. of Gatorade post workout and a little syrup occasionally) and trying to keep the fat lower (NOT always easy). Lotsa carbs from rice or potatoes. Trying to keep the breads to a minimum. Protien shake made with coffee first thing in the AM before PT. I don't drink and don't smoke cigarettes. I have about 2 to 3 cigars a week.
As I stated earlier, I take Trib and DHEA for strength, ECA or Clen for fat burn, multi , R-ALA and basic joint supplements.
Thank you again.


Post is kind of confusing to me and I'm not sure what you want help with. Are you trying to find out what anabolics to run or are you looking for legal supplements? Are you bulking or cutting right now? There is no such thing as gaining 10-15lbs of LBM and losing fat. If you are bulking up why are you taking clen?

If you want AAS then I would run just test. At your age it will be like a godsend and help you in areas aside from just muscle mass. If you are looking to keep it legal then I would just stick with your multi-vitamins, creatine, maybe try some BSN or nitric oxide type products but I don't really like them. If you cannot run AAS then most of your money should be spent on buying quality food such as chicken, lean beef, and quality carbs. I'd recommend you check out the diet and exercise forums.

Nothing AG-Guys sells is going to make you gain 10-15lbs.
 
I'm sorry if I'm not making sense. I was trying to answer the questions I was asked.
First; I need to be stronger and have more endurance.
Second; I don't know where to get Anabolics and I'm not going to ask. I guess I'm shooting for legal or semi-legal.
Third; Mass is NOT the primary concern. If I gain mass, cool. I'm sure I'll gain some from working out but I don't want too much.
Fourth; I'm not bulking but I'm not exactly cutting right now either. My weight workouts have been high rep/lower weight, aimed towards losing weight in order to save my knees. I'm just trying to remain lean while getting stronger.
Fifth; My research indicates that Nolvadex will increase Testosterone levels (and therefore strength?). Any thoughts on running this by itself?
Sixth; I need to pass a fitness test in 30 days. It's Push-ups, Sit-ups and 2 mile run. I realize that hard work is what is going to get me to my goal. I'm looking for a product that go along with my hard work and will help me in achieving strength and endurance.
Thank you again for putting up with my questions.


Lupercal CATS said:
Post is kind of confusing to me and I'm not sure what you want help with. Are you trying to find out what anabolics to run or are you looking for legal supplements? Are you bulking or cutting right now? There is no such thing as gaining 10-15lbs of LBM and losing fat. If you are bulking up why are you taking clen?

If you want AAS then I would run just test. At your age it will be like a godsend and help you in areas aside from just muscle mass. If you are looking to keep it legal then I would just stick with your multi-vitamins, creatine, maybe try some BSN or nitric oxide type products but I don't really like them. If you cannot run AAS then most of your money should be spent on buying quality food such as chicken, lean beef, and quality carbs. I'd recommend you check out the diet and exercise forums.

Nothing AG-Guys sells is going to make you gain 10-15lbs.
 
According to a chemist hired by the washington post, Superdrol is in fact an anabolic steroid. It supposedly has fairly mild anabolic properties, but the chemist says it is reminiscent of test. Here's the link.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/17/AR2005101701622.html

It isn't crap, the stuff works for light bulking and cutting. It has fairly harsh oral side effects that are more dangerous that pharmaceutical grade european juice, but since you want to stay perfectly legal I would go with superdrol. It will improve your lbm, help reduce fat, and possibly improve aerobic performance (I have not seen any logs on the last, just the original superdrol writeup by the makers say that the first testers of it had a jump in aerobic performance. test levels definitely do improve red blood cell counts and diaphram performance). "Growing Guns" on www.bodybuilding.com is over 40 and has used superdrol successfully. See his logs for details. The ag.com stuff you use for a solid pct.
 
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