Need Steroid Advice From The PRO's

[moahk]

Greetings,

I am 25 years old and have been bodybuilding for the past year almost.

since i have started i have been on these supplements on a daily basis such as:

- Protein Shake
- Glutamine
- Creatine
- Flaxseed oil

Only recently i started using Andro for the past 3 months and have seen noticable results but not anything to get excited about.

For your information the full product name of the Andro i am taking is.

Mega Pro 19-Nor4Androstene3,17dione (100mg per cap)

I take 2 caps 30mins before working out. on a daily basis

I feel good and have not had any side effects at all.

Firstly i would like to know -

1) Am i taking this supplement right?
2) How long should i use this supplement before i will see significant results?

The second part of my question is this.

I have been introduced to steroids and have friends who take it i guess because i am around them all the time i get envious and would like to try them myself also.

I do understand the consequences of these drugs. And it is very difficult to decide on wether to give them a go or not. Its almost like deciding to take your first Extasy Pill or not.

Firstly i will like to tell everyone what has been offered to me.

- Dinabole (Pinkies) from Thailand
- Dinabole (White) from Russia
- 50mg Stanzanol Tablets
- Deca

Here are some question a newbie like me would like answered.

1) Considering i have been taking the Andro for the past couple of months now, and have had no side effects will my body most likely accept the steroids or are they two completely different drugs.?

2) From the above mentioned steroids which is best to take for a begineer who wants to experiment with the steroid?

3) And of course what cycle should a begineer use and how much?

4) Is it true, that taking tablet form steroid is much more strenuous on the liver as it has to break it down there, as opposed to injectable form.

5) Any other information is most greatful ?

P.S: Please dont reply if your just going to critisize me for wanting to try steroids, i only want honest and helpful advice for what i am asking.

Regards,
MM.

 

[Triple J]

Mega Pro 19-Nor4Androstene3,17dione (100mg per cap)
I take 2 caps 30mins before working out. on a daily basis

Firstly i would like to know -

1) Am i taking this supplement right?
2) How long should i use this supplement before i will see significant results?

Regarding the prohromone you are using, I don't think you are taking enough to get any significant effect. Thus, no sides. Suggest you quit taking what you are taking.

You may want to try the newer prohormones like 1AD or something. 1AD is close to roid power in my opinion, I have not tried some of the others. 5-600mg ED should be enough for about six weeks. Taper off slow and be ready for a recovery period when you get off, you need to learn about after-cycle recovery.

Otherwise do some more research on these boards and the anabolic forum and you'll find your answers.

 

[voodoo]

1) Considering i have been taking the Andro for the past couple of months now, and have had no side effects will my body most likely accept the steroids or are they two completely different drugs.?

Totally agree with Triple 3 on this, try something like one 1AD first and see about gains. If you still are not getting them you need to check and re-check your diet. Most people have had good results with 1AD

2) From the above mentioned steroids which is best to take for a begineer who wants to experiment with the steroid?

Hmm, most of the time a stack (diff kinds, does, times) etc. Better look on the anabolic board, many 1st time combos. More important you need some anti-est and maybe something to restore natural production post-cycle

4) Is it true, that taking tablet form steroid is much more strenuous on the liver as it has to break it down there, as opposed to injectable form.

Most people say oral are very bad and you have to inject, however that really only save you 1 pass through the liver, as your body moves ALL your blood several times a day through the liver.

Also Fina is getting popular for new users. You may want to look up finasol, a transdermal aproach to fina - not as effective but it gets your feet wet so to speak.

 

[40butpumpin]

I would recommend you stay away from 1-AD for now. Go with ergo's 4-AD spray. For the real thing I think deca is the best for a beginner. It's mild, predictable and widely understood and documented, even in the medical field, as far as I'm concerned. And you only need to take it once or twice per week to see some decent gains. It's actually prescribed for involuntary weight loss. Just my opinions, I hope that helps bro.

 

[voodoo]

40butpumpin - 4-AD is a key part of Finasol and helps prevent the low sex drive problems with gear

Never tried it alone, did you already post your results before? And why not 1-AD, personally works for me but I like to hear both sides.

 

[40butpumpin]

4-ad is part of finasol? I never heard that one before. 4-ad I know is 4-andro diol and I've had some decent results from it. I think there are less sides from the 4ad then from the 1ad. I only said that considering he's only 25. I believe 1ad can shut you down pretty hard if you're not careful. Not where you want to be at 25 yrs. old. JMO.

 

[40butpumpin]

Oh, I'm sorry, now I remember how finasol is made. As I recall that is only a part of it due t-mag's androsol being a nice convenient way of delivering the fina. fina does not require 4ad for any particular purpose, however. In other words, the androsol wasn't chosen for the 4ad but rather the delivery mechanism of androsol leant itself well to a fina transdermal delivery system.

 

[voodoo]

Well some portion of 4-AD will convert to E, this helps keep the sex drive up. Or at least most people who have tried both ways have reported the "improvment". Then again some people don't have the problem.

 

[riskybizz007]

I agree w/ triple J, ditch that supplement, and you're taking it at waaay too low of a dose.

I'd agree w/ 40 about the deca, my first cycle was primo w/ d-bol and wasn't dissapointed. My bros first cycle was deca, and did awesome low doses of it alone for his first cycle.

You can get some sillymarin (milk thistle) at kilosports.com for dirt cheap, it's great liver protector. Alpha LIpoic Acid is also pretty good.

If you're looking for a good prohormone go w/ 1AD, 1-Test. I gained 16 pounds w/ 1AD at 600mg/day for 5 weeks. Molecular Nutrition has some good products out, but I'm still waiting for people to use them to get a consensu going.

 

[moahk]

thanks guys for the replies....

some of the questions were answered.

I would like to specially thank riskybizz007 for his information.

riskybizz007 i would like to ask you about the cycle.

What cycle do you recommend i do for a beginner ?

Regards,
MM

 

[HighIntensity]

1) Considering i have been taking the Andro for the past couple of months now, and have had no side effects will my body most likely accept the steroids or are they two completely different drugs.?

Really to different items. Like everyone said you did not take enough of the nor-andro to make a difference. Plus you stayed on it 2 long, get off. Nor-andro does not convert to DHT and is different then andro as it is missing the 19th partical. It is closest to real Deca.

2) From the above mentioned steroids which is best to take for a begineer who wants to experiment with the steroid?

Depending on you goals... a good first Mass cycle would include Dbol, Test, deca...a good cute cycle would include, anavar, EQ winny

4) Is it true, that taking tablet form steroid is much more strenuous on the liver as it has to break it down there, as opposed to injectable form.

Yes, this is why you use one oral and run the rest.

 

[riskybizz007]

My brother did Deca 200-300mg/week for his first cycle. Gained about 14 pounds in 7 weeks, kept 11 even to this day.

That's just the example I know of. There's 2 theories on this, either you go all out on the 1st cycle, or you have a very mild first cycle and build up. I would prefer to build up, and introduce the harsher substances w/in time. But that's just me.

If you're interested in PH's still you can get some 1test or 1AD. 1test powder you can get at kilosports, and you can make them capsules or transdermal. Avantlabs sells One which is 1test transdermal. Or also bodybuilding.com sells trenabol-x which is 4AD, 1,4andro and 1test transdermal solution.

 

[MaCPiMP1n]

Greetings,

I am 25 years old and have been bodybuilding for the past year almost.

The second part of my question is this.

I have been introduced to steroids and have friends who take it i guess because i am around them all the time i get envious and would like to try them myself also.

I do understand the consequences of these drugs. And it is very difficult to decide on wether to give them a go or not. Its almost like deciding to take your first Extasy Pill or not.

Firstly i will like to tell everyone what has been offered to me.

- Dinabole (Pinkies) from Thailand
- Dinabole (White) from Russia
- 50mg Stanzanol Tablets
- Deca

Here are some question a newbie like me would like answered.

1) Considering i have been taking the Andro for the past couple of months now, and have had no side effects will my body most likely accept the steroids or are they two completely different drugs.?

2) From the above mentioned steroids which is best to take for a begineer who wants to experiment with the steroid?

3) And of course what cycle should a begineer use and how much?

4) Is it true, that taking tablet form steroid is much more strenuous on the liver as it has to break it down there, as opposed to injectable form.

5) Any other information is most greatful ?

P.S: Please dont reply if your just going to critisize me for wanting to try steroids, i only want honest and helpful advice for what i am asking.

Regards,
MM.

You still have a long way to go. Stick with what works best, proper training and nutrition. This is how u can attain the results that u seek for. Supplement wise, stick /w the basics, whey protein/gluatamine/creatine. Save your $$$ (PH are a waste IMO) cause 5 years later u might want to re-consider using anabolic steriods; but I hardly doubt it... if u train properly, watch ur diet, and get plenty of rest, I assure u will not be disappointed..

 

[TheBear]

alright do a better search.
Dont do Dbol by itself. Cycle it with the deca. DBOL will give you awesome gains while the deca is buliding in your system. Injectable is GENERALLY safer, however winstrol will process the same as its injectable counterpart being that it is a 17AA. You can "drink injectable winny." umm, I personally dont think you should be hitting the juice because you have only trained one year, and hardly know anything about the stuff you want to take..no offense, but you cant even spell the shit right. 1-AD is pretty solid, I would give that a try with some hardcore training and supplementation.
peace.

 

[Madflip]

Hi I Have a few questions,
Im A Full time MMA Fighter Thinking Of Using Juice For The First Time.
I Fight at 145-155 and i walk around 175...
I would love to use injections and a tabs...so 1 cycle of injections and a tablet stack..
I Have acess to almost anything so could you give me advice on what would be good for me to take . i would love to look heavy than i actually am thx
Madflip