Need Steroid Advice From The PRO's

[moahk]

Greetings,

I am 25 years old and have been bodybuilding for the past year almost.

since i have started i have been on these supplements on a daily basis such as:

- Protein Shake
- Glutamine
- Creatine
- Flaxseed oil

Only recently i started using Andro for the past 3 months and have seen noticable results but not anything to get excited about.

For your information the full product name of the Andro i am taking is.

Mega Pro 19-Nor4Androstene3,17dione (100mg per cap)

I take 2 caps 30mins before working out. on a daily basis

I feel good and have not had any side effects at all.

Firstly i would like to know -

1) Am i taking this supplement right?
2) How long should i use this supplement before i will see significant results?

The second part of my question is this.

I have been introduced to steroids and have friends who take it i guess because i am around them all the time i get envious and would like to try them myself also.

I do understand the consequences of these drugs. And it is very difficult to decide on wether to give them a go or not. Its almost like deciding to take your first Extasy Pill or not.

Firstly i will like to tell everyone what has been offered to me.

- Dinabole (Pinkies) from Thailand
- Dinabole (White) from Russia
- 50mg Stanzanol Tablets
- Deca

Here are some question a newbie like me would like answered.

1) Considering i have been taking the Andro for the past couple of months now, and have had no side effects will my body most likely accept the steroids or are they two completely different drugs.?

2) From the above mentioned steroids which is best to take for a begineer who wants to experiment with the steroid?

3) And of course what cycle should a begineer use and how much?

4) Is it true, that taking tablet form steroid is much more strenuous on the liver as it has to break it down there, as opposed to injectable form.

5) Any other information is most greatful ?

P.S: Please dont reply if your just going to critisize me for wanting to try steroids, i only want honest and helpful advice for what i am asking.

Regards,
MM.

 

[Triple J]

Mega Pro 19-Nor4Androstene3,17dione (100mg per cap)
I take 2 caps 30mins before working out. on a daily basis

Firstly i would like to know -

1) Am i taking this supplement right?
2) How long should i use this supplement before i will see significant results?

Regarding the prohromone you are using, I don't think you are taking enough to get any significant effect. Thus, no sides. Suggest you quit taking what you are taking.

You may want to try the newer prohormones like 1AD or something. 1AD is close to roid power in my opinion, I have not tried some of the others. 5-600mg ED should be enough for about six weeks. Taper off slow and be ready for a recovery period when you get off, you need to learn about after-cycle recovery.

Otherwise do some more research on these boards and the anabolic forum and you'll find your answers.

 

[voodoo]

1) Considering i have been taking the Andro for the past couple of months now, and have had no side effects will my body most likely accept the steroids or are they two completely different drugs.?

Totally agree with Triple 3 on this, try something like one 1AD first and see about gains. If you still are not getting them you need to check and re-check your diet. Most people have had good results with 1AD

2) From the above mentioned steroids which is best to take for a begineer who wants to experiment with the steroid?

Hmm, most of the time a stack (diff kinds, does, times) etc. Better look on the anabolic board, many 1st time combos. More important you need some anti-est and maybe something to restore natural production post-cycle

4) Is it true, that taking tablet form steroid is much more strenuous on the liver as it has to break it down there, as opposed to injectable form.

Most people say oral are very bad and you have to inject, however that really only save you 1 pass through the liver, as your body moves ALL your blood several times a day through the liver.

Also Fina is getting popular for new users. You may want to look up finasol, a transdermal aproach to fina - not as effective but it gets your feet wet so to speak.

 

[40butpumpin]

I would recommend you stay away from 1-AD for now. Go with ergo's 4-AD spray. For the real thing I think deca is the best for a beginner. It's mild, predictable and widely understood and documented, even in the medical field, as far as I'm concerned. And you only need to take it once or twice per week to see some decent gains. It's actually prescribed for involuntary weight loss. Just my opinions, I hope that helps bro.

 

[voodoo]

40butpumpin - 4-AD is a key part of Finasol and helps prevent the low sex drive problems with gear

Never tried it alone, did you already post your results before? And why not 1-AD, personally works for me but I like to hear both sides.

 

[40butpumpin]

4-ad is part of finasol? I never heard that one before. 4-ad I know is 4-andro diol and I've had some decent results from it. I think there are less sides from the 4ad then from the 1ad. I only said that considering he's only 25. I believe 1ad can shut you down pretty hard if you're not careful. Not where you want to be at 25 yrs. old. JMO.

 

[40butpumpin]

Oh, I'm sorry, now I remember how finasol is made. As I recall that is only a part of it due t-mag's androsol being a nice convenient way of delivering the fina. fina does not require 4ad for any particular purpose, however. In other words, the androsol wasn't chosen for the 4ad but rather the delivery mechanism of androsol leant itself well to a fina transdermal delivery system.

 

[voodoo]

Well some portion of 4-AD will convert to E, this helps keep the sex drive up. Or at least most people who have tried both ways have reported the "improvment". Then again some people don't have the problem.

 

[riskybizz007]

I agree w/ triple J, ditch that supplement, and you're taking it at waaay too low of a dose.

I'd agree w/ 40 about the deca, my first cycle was primo w/ d-bol and wasn't dissapointed. My bros first cycle was deca, and did awesome low doses of it alone for his first cycle.

You can get some sillymarin (milk thistle) at kilosports.com for dirt cheap, it's great liver protector. Alpha LIpoic Acid is also pretty good.

If you're looking for a good prohormone go w/ 1AD, 1-Test. I gained 16 pounds w/ 1AD at 600mg/day for 5 weeks. Molecular Nutrition has some good products out, but I'm still waiting for people to use them to get a consensu going.

 

[moahk]

thanks guys for the replies....

some of the questions were answered.

I would like to specially thank riskybizz007 for his information.

riskybizz007 i would like to ask you about the cycle.

What cycle do you recommend i do for a beginner ?

Regards,
MM