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BrandonXJ

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Hey, new member but I've been reading and learning for a few weeks now..
25, 5'6, 155 15%BF, just trying to add more LBM. This would be my first.

I know I probably overlooked something simple here, which I why I'm asking for opinions.

Code:
test-en		500mg/wk	1-10
dbol		25mg/day	1-5
novla		10mg/day	1-10 (just being safe..)

PCT
novla		10mg/day	10-13
Clomid		100mg/day	10-11
Clomid		50mg/day	11-13
I was thinking about HCG maybe 250IU 2-3x a week for 1-10 but wasn't sure how necessary that would be.. It doesn't seem like too heavy a cycle imho.

Also should I bother with the dbol? Maybe just goint straight "en" would be enough and then I could time the PCT a little better...

whaddya think?

thanks bros.
 
you will have amazing gains with very little aas your first cycle, my first was 250mg sust/week-8 weeks, and i gained 25lbs. i dont see any need for dbol on your first cycle, just my opinion though
 
Yep, my first was 250/wk for 8 weeks, great gains. I would keep it simple, 250-500mg/wk of test for 8-10 weeks. Keep nolva on hand just in case. PCT: 500iu HCG for 10 days, 300mg clomid first day, then 100mg/ed for next two weeks..Don't see much about your diet up here either..
 
while on i would drop the nolva and use a-dex @.25mg/day..if you start to get itchy nips then i would hop on the nolva right away..
 
Thanks guys, I probably will just say screw the dbol and go straight test for my first.. be a bit cheaper that way too ;)

flex2win said:
Don't see much about your diet up here either..

As far as the diet I figured pizza hut and dominos all day and night..! ;)

kidding.. gonna try for close to 3000-3500 cals, high protien, high complex carb and low fat for the duration of the cycle.. not really sure what foods I'll be eating to get there (I'm thinking a lot of chicken breast and rice..) but I've got some time to research that too.


flex2win said:
PCT: 500iu HCG for 10 days, 300mg clomid first day, then 100mg/ed for next two weeks..

Really, HCG for PCT? I was reading that it might be better to use during cycle than PCT.. maybe I misread. 100mg clomid over 2 weeks, that's not overkill?

Thanks again for the comments bros, I appreciate it.
 
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it may just be me but heres what I would do if I were doing a test cycle.
i'd eat 7 800-1000 calorie meals with 50 grams of protein in them.1000mgs of ginger root.use tylers liver detox,drink 1 glass cranberry juice ed,then i'd trade the d-bol for more clomid.It'd look like this
Nolva 1/2 tab ed for 8 weeks then 1 whole tab for 4 more weeks
Test E. 750 mgs a week for 8 weeks
Clomid 200mgs ed 2 weeks after the last injection for 4 weeks
I'd also use zma,glutamine,creatine,Cla if your not already.
eat healthy watch your cholestrol and drink at least 2 gallons of water ED.
 
Thanks man, that helps me get a better look at the diet.. I had no idea I was underestimating the calories so much.

You don't think 750 test e. is too much for first time? I mean I'm all for going balls to the wall but I thought 500 might've been pushing it...
 
nothing wrong with 500mg/wk..stick with your first idea.. 750 is not neceassary for your first cycle .also nothing wrong with running d-bol first couple of weeks to jump start..
 
PumpingIronInCancun said:
it may just be me but heres what I would do if I were doing a test cycle.
i'd eat 7 800-1000 calorie meals with 50 grams of protein in them.1000mgs of ginger root.use tylers liver detox,drink 1 glass cranberry juice ed,then i'd trade the d-bol for more clomid.It'd look like this
Nolva 1/2 tab ed for 8 weeks then 1 whole tab for 4 more weeks
Test E. 750 mgs a week for 8 weeks
Clomid 200mgs ed 2 weeks after the last injection for 4 weeks
I'd also use zma,glutamine,creatine,Cla if your not already.
eat healthy watch your cholestrol and drink at least 2 gallons of water ED.

7-8000 cals??...... This guy is a buck fifty! 3500 max.
 
heh.. thanks, that's kind of what I was thinking too.. I had no idea how in the hell I was going to eat 7-8000 :)
 
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