Need some help with upcoming cycle

[Therealdeal06555]

My previouse cycle was 14 weeks of eq 400mgs and test 400mg....The bloat was crazy..my face swelled up and i didnt really like it at all....So now im staying with the leaner supplements.

For my upcoming cycle i deff want to use Test prop 200mg(MAX), Tren and masteron...I also have winni and anavar that I maybe would like to use at the end of the cycle maybe...Is there a way i can do the tren test mast for 8 weeks then add winni and anavar....or am i better off just adding in just the anavar and forgetting the winni?

 

[HAYEZ]

how many cycles have you done? could be a sick stack but lets see where your at so we can figure doses

 

[Therealdeal06555]

This will be my fourth cycle...I've taken tren before and like many others it's a love hate relationship..never tried anavar yet tho

 

[the_alcatraz]

how old are you bro?
what are your stats?
how long you been training?

 

[timjones]

My previouse cycle was 14 weeks of eq 400mgs and test 400mg....The bloat was crazy..my face swelled up and i didnt really like it at all....So now im staying with the leaner supplements.

For my upcoming cycle i deff want to use Test prop 200mg(MAX), Tren and masteron...I also have winni and anavar that I maybe would like to use at the end of the cycle maybe...Is there a way i can do the tren test mast for 8 weeks then add winni and anavar....or am i better off just adding in just the anavar and forgetting the winni?

I would assume by "test 400mg" you probably are talking about the long estered enanthate right? That would definitely explain the bloat. Instead of the Eq, masteron would have been a better option because it will have helped to keep that bloat under control. Enanthate is one that people really do not give enough respect to. Meaning, in my opinion, masterone or proviron really should always be used at low dosages to help manage (not eliminate) the estrogen buildup..

Test prop... Great stuff, but be prepared to be pretty sore and tired of ejects... Tren... Love the strength, but hate the rage and rather harsh PCT... Masteron - mild, but great as a secondary stacking item.. Oxandrolone (Anavar) is very mild, but great to use during a PCT... Winstrol is great for PCT as well, but it also is not much for bulk or strength...

 

[HAYEZ]

1-8 prop 150 eod
1-8 mast 150 eod
1-8 tren 100 eod
1-8 var 60 ed

its a good sane cycle...sure the results would be sick

 

[micksnowdog]

I would assume by "test 400mg" you probably are talking about the long estered enanthate right? That would definitely explain the bloat. Instead of the Eq, masteron would have been a better option because it will have helped to keep that bloat under control. Enanthate is one that people really do not give enough respect to. Meaning, in my opinion, masterone or proviron really should always be used at low dosages to help manage (not eliminate) the estrogen buildup..

Test prop... Great stuff, but be prepared to be pretty sore and tired of ejects... Tren... Love the strength, but hate the rage and rather harsh PCT... Masteron - mild, but great as a secondary stacking item.. Oxandrolone (Anavar) is very mild, but great to use during a PCT... Winstrol is great for PCT as well, but it also is not much for bulk or strength...

must disagree, as will a lot of other bro's on here i'm sure.
these two compounds both still shut you down, this is not for pct.

 

[Olivelawn]

must disagree, as will a lot of other bro's on here i'm sure.
these two compounds both still shut you down, this is not for pct.

Sorry I disagree.

Your HPTA will be sluggish, but you can recover. I would use 10mg AM dbol. Dose clomid at night. I would also use 20mg anavar but not winstrol, you will crash off of that.

The short half life of Dbol will help you retain A LOT of the gains you have made 90%+. The dbol will be out of your system in roughly 9 hours. Then the clomid will do it's thing at night by increasing your natural test levels.

 

[AAP]

I can't figure out why you would bloat off 400mg of test, no matter what ester it was. You must have had a really loose diet intake or some cheap creatine or something. I can't figure that part out.

I have never heard of anyone getting a bloat off EQ. If you wanted to run 1cc test prop and 1cc of Eq on Mon Wed and Fri, that would be great. A very solid stack.

But since you are leaning towards other options, I would recommend 1cc test prop, 1cc masteron on Mon Wed Fri and then 25 mg winstrol daily for the duration of the cycle.

Don't be scared by the warnings of winstrol for long periods of time. Maybe if you are recklessly consuming high amounts it might be problematic, but I used 50mg daily for 34 weeks and had no problems with it.

 

[scotty too hotty]

Eq converts slightly to estrogen and adding that with the test just might have been too much, especially w/ no a-dex. In my experience, winstrol will help dry you out a little, which should help with any ester of test, especially prop. If I had hcg, I would do them all! You'd be looking ready to step on stage!

 

[Therealdeal06555]

OK I will take the advice thanks...

 

[Kempona]

My previouse cycle was 14 weeks of eq 400mgs and test 400mg....The bloat was crazy..my face swelled up and i didnt really like it at all....So now im staying with the leaner supplements.

For my upcoming cycle i deff want to use Test prop 200mg(MAX), Tren and masteron...I also have winni and anavar that I maybe would like to use at the end of the cycle maybe...Is there a way i can do the tren test mast for 8 weeks then add winni and anavar....or am i better off just adding in just the anavar and forgetting the winni?

I feel u. I get bloat from test e or test c too even in low dosage.
I've done a very similar cycle to your feature cycle with AWESOME results. Did test p 300mg/week just to keep me going..tren hex 400mg/week, ana 50mg/day and at the second half used 50mg winny/day.

Like
I sad I got very ripped and lean with insane strenght, but pct was pain in the ass even though I was running arimidex and hcg during the cycle. Long recovery and a lot of breakout all over...

But there is no victory without sacrifice.

Good luck.