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trying2grow101

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I was going to do a four week cycle of 500mgs of enanthate but after some guys here discouraging it i've decided to do a 10 week cycle but i didn't know how much hcg to get for the cycle.
 
trying2grow101 said:
I was going to do a four week cycle of 500mgs of enanthate but after some guys here discouraging it i've decided to do a 10 week cycle but i didn't know how much hcg to get for the cycle.


Hcg is not needed for a Test 500mg/wk only cycle. I'd run the cycle for at least 12 wks ..............................
 
Need more info. i.e. age , lifting yrs, how many cycles, wgt, goals. Your question is too vague to give educated advise on.
 
mr. snakes said:
Hcg is not needed for a Test 500mg/wk only cycle. I'd run the cycle for at least 12 wks ..............................


i'm running 250mg of test for 10 weeks and everyone's saying i gotta get hcg??????????????????????????????

hehe. my heads spinning now.
 
E/one wil say you need this or that or you got to run it like and so on. 10wks @500mg is good but like I said you need to post your stats/goals you will get answers a lot quicker. Just trying to help a brotha out if I can.
 
jagerbombme said:
i'm running 250mg of test for 10 weeks and everyone's saying i gotta get hcg??????????????????????????????

hehe. my heads spinning now.


hcg - if you have it use it. But 250/wk you don't need it imo...
 
Run 500mg a test per week for 10 weeks for a first cycle - It is your first, you want to stick with Test, but you also want to get everything out of it you can, and I personally don't think 250mg is enough.

Throw in an AI. It is not likely necessary for HCG with that cycle, but I would do it anyway - They are your testes for god sakes - Why take chances?!?!? Check out the PCT forum for a bulletproof PCT.

You will need Nolva, Clomid, and 10,000 iu's of HCG. Do some reading in the PCT forum to get the exact protocol. I use JENETIC's protocol on every cycle and it has never failed.
 
i'm 6'3 210 lbs been lifting 4 years i've taken a couple of cycles before stronger than this but i stacked with deca so now i'm doing just test only so i can use propecia and cut back the hairloss i'm 21 years old and around 15% body fat. and hcg only available in 5000 ius
 
the best PCT protocol ive used is 500ius of HCG ed for 3 weeks and 20mg nolva with 25mg of Exemestane, you wont need the exemestane for a test only cycle, but you WILL need the HCG and Nolva. Run it at 500iu ed for 3 weeks which would be about 10,000 ius should be enough, id get 15000 just to make sure.
 
do i mix the hcg and then only take a certain amount at a time or would i have to take 5000 ius each shot because it would be in amps right???
 
trying2grow101 said:
do i mix the hcg and then only take a certain amount at a time or would i have to take 5000 ius each shot because it would be in amps right???
here's something from my scrapbook...

Calculating HCG:

There isn't a specific ratio of cc/ml to IU. It depends on how you mix it. It's quite simple. If you dillute 5,000 IUs HCG with 5ml (cc) solvent, the end result is 1,000 IUs per ml (cc). Divide the same 5,000 IUs with 10 ml (cc) and the end result is 500 IUs per ml (cc). Therefore, a large part depends on the concentration of HCG per ampoule or vial.

Mixing HCG:
(Items needed: bacwater h20 and some 5ml emty vials-getpinz).

1) Open hcg/amp with powder
2) Use a syringe to pull out 1cc of BacWater and put in amp with HCG
3) It will instantly dissolve
4) Then Use an empty 5ml vial (sterile and sealed) put 4ml of Bacwater in the vial
5) Take syringe and ad the mixed HCG solution to the 5ml vial
6) Shake it and you have 5000IU's of HCG
7) Than draw 1cc and inject
8) put the rest in the refrigerator

•The reason your discarding the amp of solvent cause its made for 1 times use and you wouldn’t be able to refrigerate it and use it a week later again. That’s why you need Bac H2o.
•The most common side affect associated with HCG is gynecomastia. The concurrent intake of Nolvadex with HCG prevents gynecomastia, prevents/minimizes leydig cell desensitization and contiues the stimulation of pituitary LH once HCG has been discontinued.
•HCG will last approximately 30 days if mixed with Bac h2o instead of the solvent it comes with.
•You can keep the mixed hcg in vial or pins In the fridge till use
 
jackedfreak said:
the best PCT protocol ive used is 500ius of HCG ed for 3 weeks and 20mg nolva with 25mg of Exemestane, you wont need the exemestane for a test only cycle, but you WILL need the HCG and Nolva. Run it at 500iu ed for 3 weeks which would be about 10,000 ius should be enough, id get 15000 just to make sure.
agreed ... :coffee:
 
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