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KBgrl

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So I had an appt. with an endocronologist this morning because of some hormone problems I have been having. She took bloods , urine etc and we will talk about exactly what is going on when she sees the results. But based on symptoms we know something is not right. she asked me to explain to her in detail about my diet and she was horrified. She is advising me to go on a strictly organic diet consisting of lots of grains, beans , nuts, some fruit and very little meat and no dairy. Basically everything has to be unrefined and natural. She said that the hormones and chemicals in all the food today might be throwing my body off course.

So im freakin out a little cause this diet is pretty hight carbs with very little meat if any. does anyone eat like this? I asked her if she sees any BB's but of course she doesnt. She said all that protein is horrible for our bones etc. anyway, she really seemed liked a progressive doctor that wasnt living in the dark ages so I felt comfortable and trust her opinion but Im confused now.MS, are you out there?? I'm sure you would have some great insight here.

I am anxious to see what the blood results will tell and how things will change from there. I will let you all know what it is so we can work it from there.

Any input would be great.
Thanks,
KB
 
KBgrl said:
So I had an appt. with an endocronologist this morning because of some hormone problems I have been having. She took bloods , urine etc and we will talk about exactly what is going on when she sees the results. But based on symptoms we know something is not right. she asked me to explain to her in detail about my diet and she was horrified. She is advising me to go on a strictly organic diet consisting of lots of grains, beans , nuts, some fruit and very little meat and no dairy. Basically everything has to be unrefined and natural. She said that the hormones and chemicals in all the food today might be throwing my body off course.

So im freakin out a little cause this diet is pretty hight carbs with very little meat if any. does anyone eat like this? I asked her if she sees any BB's but of course she doesnt. She said all that protein is horrible for our bones etc. anyway, she really seemed liked a progressive doctor that wasnt living in the dark ages so I felt comfortable and trust her opinion but Im confused now.MS, are you out there?? I'm sure you would have some great insight here.

I am anxious to see what the blood results will tell and how things will change from there. I will let you all know what it is so we can work it from there.

Any input would be great.
Thanks,
KB
Sorry to hear about your situation.

She was horrified about your diet? Curious to know what exactly you have been eating that may be throwing your body off course...

Regarding her statement on Protein, That's a very controversial Theory... Interesting info/facts

There are some good articles available on the links at the bottom of that page as well.

:rose:
 
Hey girl! Especially from a doctor's standpoint, whose training in nutrition is minimal and is probably based on the ol' Food Pyramid, yep, I'm sure high protein freaks her out. An organic diet, to me, sounds pretty close to a cleansing diet that I recommend after any extended period of high protein dieting. Protein helps support muscle growth, however lots of protein and a restricted diet = lots of waste & by-products (e.g. free radicals) left over in your system with no or limited enzymes & stuff that would normally help clean it all out.

A couple of times when my metabolism has really been bottomed out, I've run a cleansing diet. Yes it is high carb / high sugar (not refined but natural) but its essentially like a front-loading of enzymes. Because of the low calories and mostly-liquid form, I have never run this for more than a week because you just start feeling exhausted because there's only "instant energy" coming from the simple carbs and not much to really run on after a while.

Here's a repost from a diff board when I set up a plan to cleanse & then ease back into "regular" (LMAO --- 'regular' is a relative term to a BB) diet:

I think its a good idea to clean out the system occassionally, especially when you think of all the crap that accumulates in the intestines and also when running a restricted diet such as a bb diet which eliminates most if not all fruits and high sugar vegies. Those things are high in sugar (and thus promote insulin spikes, etc) but they have great enzymes for cleansing that are otherwise eliminated from your diet. Note, if you have been eating garbage for a long time and do this sort of diet, you may get headaches, etc. while the "garbage" is being shuttled out of your body, but afterwards you really feel good. Also not that this really shouldn't be run for much more than a week because of the restricted calories.

So on the suggestion of a friend, I rejuvenated a cleansing diet I did a couple years ago after some wild dieting for competition. I ran this with a "intestinal cleanser" called Oxy-Powder (oxy-powder.com) for the week. This stuff will clean out the pipes but good! For informational purposes, here's the detox diet I followed for 5 days:

Waking:
water + fresh squeezed lemon - this is supposed to "wake up your body"
spirulina + pineapple juice (I used this organic powder stuff from Whole Foods)
EFAs
Multi

Meal 1:
juiced watermelon (throw 2 slices of watermelon in the juicer, rind & all)
(this is also good for reducing water retention)

Meal 2:
brown rice
mixed vegies
1 egg, 5 egg whites

Meal 3:
large salad w/ vinegar & flax oil

Meal 4:
juiced vegetables (spinach, carrots, beets, wheatgress, some cherry tomatoes, green peppers, sprouts - basically whatever was in the fridge)

Meal 5:
miso soup (low sodium)

Meal 6:
fiber drink

It was kind of boring, stayed near the bathroom, would start getting tired because of the low calories, and just trained (no cardio). My training was good, intense but with some weak spots due to some shoulder problems I've been having lately. The result was that I definitely dumped some water weight and I feel better in general. I sleep well & I haven't had a stomach ache since. I'm continuing the OxyPowder for the rest of this week but at the maintenance dose instead of the full-on cleansing dose.

Over the Mother's Day weekend I eased back into a non-cleansing diet by still eating some fruit, still juicing for vegies, but more protein and a little lemon meringue pie for Mother's Day.

After having completed that, my goal is to drop some bodyfat. Currently I"m probably 24% bf, 170. (Eek.) This week, I dug up the diet I used when I first attempted competition with a little modification to continue the ideas of the cleansing diet. For the first 4 weeks or so, I'll be following this:

Waking:
juiced fruit (green apples or watermelon) + spirulina
EFAs
Multi

Meal 1:
1/2 c oatmeal
1 1/2 scoop protein mix

Meal 2:
4 oz chicken
1/2 c brown rice

Meal 3:
Protein shake

Meal 4:
4 oz chicken
vegie salad
3 oz sweet potato



Postworkout ("Meal 5"):
Protein mix + 3 strawberries

Meal 6:
4 oz lean meat
vegies (this ends up being juiced vegies)

Meal 7 (if needed)
1/3 c tofu + 1 scoop protein mix or protein shake
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about 1750 cal (excluding the morning juice - this will stop in a week)

Training:
M: chest + tris + abs, cardio
T: back + bis, cardio
W: legs
Th: cardio
F: shoulders + abs, cardio (if i feel like it)

The cardio has been a little lame because of coming off the cleansing diet (lowwwwwww cal)
 
Generally when I've done less structured diets like this ---

1) You don't need to use the Oxy powder, but if the pipes haven't been cleaned out in a while, it might not hurt. Just make sure you can be close to a bathroom at all times.

2) You can get a juicer at Target for $30. They are sort of messy to use and I had one of mine crap out on me after not much use. Others have lasted much longer, but I didn't use them so much outside of these cleanses.

3) When I "juice", I pretty much shove everything into the juicer, so its good to buy your fruits & veggies in bulk at Costco / Sam's Club if you can - it can get expensive. You can stick just about anything together, but make sure you include either carrots or apples as well. Otherwise it will taste like sludge. I've put in:
cucumbers
celery
apples
strawberries
kiwi
watermelon - rind & all
carrots
spinach
romaine
wheat grass -- very good to stick some of this in there
rutabagas -- good source of iodine -- good for thyroid

Basically any sweet veggie / fruit.

Don't put in things like onions - it will make your stomach ball up so fast in agony you won't know what hit. Also not sure about citrus.
 
ok results are in....

My thyroid was a little on the low side so doc gave me some armour (thyroid 30mg) to take once a day. My iron was low too and we are still waiting for some additional test results to come in.

Can anyone give me some info on this thyroid med? What is the difference b/w them all? My doc said that she likes to use a med. that has a mixture of t4 and t3. Any thoughts?
 
I have a pretty strict diet but I can't eat nuts cuz i'm allergic :worried:

I stick mostly with greens, skinless chicken and protein shakes!
 
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