Need some advice.

[shizzon]

so , my friend and i are starting a 2month cycle , we are starting out with d-bol to jumpstart , for first week or so, then going to test for 2 months and then using nolva for pct.

we are newbs and need some advice ..
how long should we be taking things?
is there anything else we should be taking?
is this a long enough cycle to see side-effects, if so what kind?


any info or advice would be very helpful.
im about 5'10" 170 lbs, approx 9% bf, lifting casually for about a year, getting a littler more serious past couple of months.
i was aroud 195lbs and about 20% bf last winter, but ihave been doing mad cardio and eating good to drop most of the fat. now i just wanna gain straight muscle.

thank you. .

 

[turbogreek]

bro...whatever you do, do not start your cycles yet. your are definately not ready yet. you should be able to answer those questions before you start.

*not being a dick, just lookin to help

oh...and chatting about prices i a no-no on the boards.

 

[turbogreek]

so , my friend and i are starting a 2month cycle , we are starting out with d-bol to jumpstart , for first week or so, then going to test for 2 months and then using nolva for pct.

we are newbs and need some advice ..
how long should we be taking things?
is there anything else we should be taking?
is this a long enough cycle to see side-effects, if so what kind?


any info or advice would be very helpful.
oh yeah , we are paying about $360 a piece for everything .

ok...now i'll get you on your feet...

how long should we be taking things?

week 1 to 4 or 5: dbol (dose TBD)
week 1 to 10 or 12: test (dose TBD)

is there anything else we should be taking?

yes...some sort of aromatase inhibitor to fight estrogen & maybe something fo th hair line

side-effects, if so what kind

exsesive sweating, acne & hairloss are just some sides which are more common with test and dbol. some see sides, others don't.

 

[bmcadoo44]

i agree, u need to leave aas alone.... Work out serious for a year hardcore and see if u want to do roids or if ur satisfied with what u get out of a good natural year.

 

[danymal04]

nothing compares to aas... but if your going to do it, do it smart and get some var and test E if your young like below 25 yrs of age and run the var 4-6 weeks 40-50 and test E 250-500mgs EW. EQ if you want but thats a little more complex but will give you LBM and thats what you want. Fuck gettin all puffy, that shit sucks so make sure you get some aifm which can be found searching if ouu google it really easy but I forget the website. Good stuff. if your not satisfied with that, then go with arimidex which can be bought at a-g guys or from a source. Keep it real and kill that shit son

 

[VascularitY]

kids been working out for 1 year and poppin DBOL's jesus f'ing christ, nowhere near ready for this.

With that being said, your gonna do it anyway, you said your taking DBOL for the first 4 weeks then starting test?? Take the test from day one along with the DBOL cuz your test will take a good while to kick in and you will lose every single lb gained from the DBOL in the time period waiting for the test to kick in.

You need an AI such as arimidex, aromasin, or letrozole to keep water retention down. AIFM also works although ive never tried it. And yes you should expect to see lots of side effects from your cycle no matter how long your running it, because you dont know a thing about these compounds your using.

You need to search for PCT in these forums, its more important than the cycle itself. Then search in the diet forums to learn how to eat while on cycle, cuz i guarantee you have no clue how to do that either. Search in the training forum to learn to train correctly, cuz after only 1 year, you probably have no idea what your doing there either. Do you see where im going with this paragraph. I dont think you know 1 thing about what your doing, so forget all the cycle advice i gave you earlier and then forget the cycle

 

[SwolK]

you have not been working out long enough bro.

 

[rg78]

The way i see it, you dont need roids your already 9% naturally and been casually working out for a year, awesome!

 

[athlete.03]

Seriously, my friend, research research research. I researched for over a year before I took my first dose and don't regret it a bit. It's not cliche, I and many others did it and a couple decades our prostates, hair follicles, hearts, HPTA's, etc. will thank us.

Now follow us and do exactly what you see: research the shit out of this before self-medicating.

 

[VascularitY]

The way i see it, you dont need roids your already 9% naturally and been casually working out for a year, awesome!

that dont mean shit, just because hes 9 % doesnt mean he looks good, theres a lot of skinny ass mofos runnin around with single digit bodyfat % that have no muscle mass at all and look like they are sick

 

[danymal04]

that dont mean shit, just because hes 9 % doesnt mean he looks good, theres a lot of skinny ass mofos runnin around with single digit bodyfat % that have no muscle mass at all and look like they are sick

word. especially high school kids. But he's older so I'm not sure, I'm sure he's got some def. if he's been working out for over a year. But seriously... do a lil research and realize how much there is to learn before you do something stuipd. Just know exactly what you need to do before you do it.

 

[rg78]

that dont mean shit, just because hes 9 % doesnt mean he looks good, theres a lot of skinny ass mofos runnin around with single digit bodyfat % that have no muscle mass at all and look like they are sick

I was being sarcastic