Need some Advhce on current Cycle.

[johnny g]

Need some Advice on current Cycle.

Current weight 213 lbs - bf 10 - 13%.
Height 5' 9.5

Substances used:
Test Enthanate
Dbols
Tren
1 - 5: I ran Test at 600 - 800mg for 5 weeks tapered up.
5 - 8: Dbol @ 25mg a day / Tren 100mg EOD .
8 - 10: Tren 100mg EOD

I don't know why I even ran the test to begin with but I did. I want to add weight in the worst way but I don't want that bloat. I wanted quality weight. So after dropping off the Dbols and the test I am currently on Tren. I love this stuff the only thing is that my hair doesn't. So I plan on running this for another two weeks but I want to switch over to something else. I am up 13lbs so far but I want another 10lbs of quality and I am patient. What can I use keeping in regards my hairline.

I have access to EQ, Anavar, Winstrol, Prop, Primo, Deca. Another option is to keeping run the tren but what can I take to avoid the hairloss?

 

[longhorn814]

thats a terrible cycle IMO. Dbol should be used for the first 4 weeks to kick off a cycle, the test should be ran the whole cycle at it takes 4-5 weeks for it to really kick in. Test should be the base of every cycle. Dbol and the test can both cause bloat. If you want to keep the bloat down try some arimidex .5 mg ed or so. Cant comment on the tren as I havent taken it. Do you have anything planned for PCT or are you just gonna come off and not take anything to recover? Tren will shut you down pretty hard

 

[patsfan1379]

Re: Need some Advice on current Cycle.

first you need to do stop running DBOL & tren together... run dbol the first 4 weeks and Tren the last 4 weeks.

hairloss - you need to identify by process of elimination what is causing the hairloss... some get it from Test, some from Tren.. i got it from tren...

gain is gain there is no "quality" gains... if you want less bloat run an anti-e like arimidex during the cycle... your muscle gains will be almost the same but you wont get the "water" weight.

there isnt much to fight sides of Tren, not as effective as arimidex is to test...

RESEARCH... You are sorely uninformed and you are fucking your liver as we speak.

Current weight 213 lbs - bf 10 - 13%.
Height 5' 9.5

Substances used:
Test Enthanate
Dbols
Tren
1 - 5: I ran Test at 600 - 800mg for 5 weeks tapered up.
5 - 8: Dbol @ 25mg a day / Tren 100mg EOD .
8 - 10: Tren 100mg EOD

I don't know why I even ran the test to begin with but I did. I want to add weight in the worst way but I don't want that bloat. I wanted quality weight. So after dropping off the Dbols and the test I am currently on Tren. I love this stuff the only thing is that my hair doesn't. So I plan on running this for another two weeks but I want to switch over to something else. I am up 13lbs so far but I want another 10lbs of quality and I am patient. What can I use keeping in regards my hairline.

I have access to EQ, Anavar, Winstrol, Prop, Primo, Deca. Another option is to keeping run the tren but what can I take to avoid the hairloss?

 

[johnny g]

Re: Need some Advice on current Cycle.

first you need to do stop running DBOL & tren together... run dbol the first 4 weeks and Tren the last 4 weeks.

hairloss - you need to identify by process of elimination what is causing the hairloss... some get it from Test, some from Tren.. i got it from tren...

gain is gain there is no "quality" gains... if you want less bloat run an anti-e like arimidex during the cycle... your muscle gains will be almost the same but you wont get the "water" weight.

there isnt much to fight sides of Tren, not as effective as arimidex is to test...

RESEARCH... You are sorely uninformed and you are fucking your liver as we speak.

I see that no one really reads what is written. Maybe I had written it poorly or not thourghly enough. I ran Test for the first five weeks. I ran Prop/ Enanthate together. Originally I was going to run Test and Dbols together. I had a source gone bad, so my originally intentions didn't work out to well. Second of all I ran Dbols and Tren for three weeks together. I NO LONGER run the two together. I originally wanted to go all out mass. You can see that from how the cycle started. I changed my mind unfortunately mid way through. I dropped DBOLs, and I Dropped the Test Completely, hence losing the bloat. Third, I don't think I am sorely uninformed Tren and Dbols are both Liver toxic and Tren kidney toxic to some extent. Fourth My hairloss comes from Tren. Test Doesn't effect my hair at all, I have enough cycle experience to know what fucks with my hair and what doesn't by now. Also there is "quality" gain. I would rather put on 10lbs of quality muscle over a 4 - 6 week period then put on 20 lbs in that same time and look like a water ballon.

I just wanted an opinion on what to run to keep hard and bloated, what I didn't want was someone to tell me how uninformed I am.

 

[patsfan1379]

Re: Need some Advice on current Cycle.

sorry dude... if that was the case and you've got all the experience and info already you should have just put two things...

"How do you fight Tren. related hairloss?"

"How do you fight extrogen related bloat?"

should have specified the test thing... you listed only Enanthate...

Tren is not kidney toxic to some extent, is is toxic to a LARGE extent.

Again, muscle is muscle bro, i think you just define "quality" muscle as size without bloat.

I see that no one really reads what is written. Maybe I had written it poorly or not thourghly enough. I ran Test for the first five weeks. I ran Prop/ Enanthate together. Originally I was going to run Test and Dbols together. I had a source gone bad, so my originally intentions didn't work out to well. Second of all I ran Dbols and Tren for three weeks together. I NO LONGER run the two together. I originally wanted to go all out mass. You can see that from how the cycle started. I changed my mind unfortunately mid way through. I dropped DBOLs, and I Dropped the Test Completely, hence losing the bloat. Third, I don't think I am sorely uninformed Tren and Dbols are both Liver toxic and Tren kidney toxic to some extent. Fourth My hairloss comes from Tren. Test Doesn't effect my hair at all, I have enough cycle experience to know what fucks with my hair and what doesn't by now. Also there is "quality" gain. I would rather put on 10lbs of quality muscle over a 4 - 6 week period then put on 20 lbs in that same time and look like a water ballon.

I just wanted an opinion on what to run to keep hard and bloated, what I didn't want was someone to tell me how uninformed I am.

 

[johnny g]

Re: Need some Advice on current Cycle.

sorry dude... if that was the case and you've got all the experience and info already you should have just put two things...

"How do you fight Tren. related hairloss?"

"How do you fight extrogen related bloat?"

should have specified the test thing... you listed only Enanthate...

Tren is not kidney toxic to some extent, is is toxic to a LARGE extent.

Again, muscle is muscle bro, i think you just define "quality" muscle as size without bloat.

Your right I think I provided alittle to much information and my post might have gotten alittle confusing.

 

[BOOEY]

Perfect example of why you should have everything on hand before starting a cycle.

"I just wanted an opinion on what to run to keep hard and bloated"

Well which is it? Hard or bloated? Just messing with you .. start pct, wait a few months, and start another cycle with everything on hand and planned out beforehand. 13lbs gained in 10 weeks is good, especially if most of it is lbm.

 

[Ulter]

I agree that cycle is an abortion and full of the wrong ways to use AS.

Never start a cycle if you don't have the gear you need.

Where is your Anti Aromatese? No wonder you bloated.

Never shoot tren without some test. Never do ANY cycle without some test. Your body has several systems including your brain/memory function that rely on test. You've just removed it from your system.

Never shoot tren EOD. You create a spike a drop effect of your blood levels. One reason for your sides like hairloss.


Tren 75mg ED

Tren 150 EOD

Either put the dbol back or the test. And get an AI

 

[patsfan1379]

I agree that cycle is an abortion and full of the wrong ways to use AS.

Never start a cycle if you don't have the gear you need.

Where is your Anti Aromatese? No wonder you bloated.

Never shoot tren without some test. Never do ANY cycle without some test. Your body has several systems including your brain/memory function that rely on test. You've just removed it from your system.

Never shoot tren EOD. You create a spike a drop effect of your blood levels. One reason for your sides like hairloss.


Tren 75mg ED

Tren 150 EOD

Either put the dbol back or the test. And get an AI

Ulter do you have any of those pre-post graphs for extended periods... and with a PCT program??

Awesome stuff!!

 

[Ulter]

No, I don't make the graphs. I don't actually believe in many of the ones I see posted because they will vary so greatly from person to person. I only post these on occasion because halflife/bloodlevels are generally the same from person to person even if the peaks are in different places.

 

[patsfan1379]

No, I don't make the graphs. I don't actually believe in many of the ones I see posted because they will vary so greatly from person to person. I only post these on occasion because halflife/bloodlevels are generally the same from person to person even if the peaks are in different places.

they at least work for effect on newbies.






and me.