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need help with planning first inject cycle

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thebro

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i want to start my first inject cycle ive been training for a well for a year and a half and am about 185lbs this is what i was thinking

test enth-500mg/week 10
deca-400mg/ week 10
and maybe dbol-30mg ed week1-4
nolvadex-25mgedweek1-10

pct clomide

what do you guys think thanx for any help
 
How old are you. It is a solid cycle..Reminds me of my first cycle..Back in the Day..lol.
You could prob get a lot out of just taking the enth and see your body reacts to it with out taking such a surpressing drug like D3ca.
 
if youv only been training for a year bro i think you need to keep training and get a good diet going before you hit aas. as said above, how old are you?
 
thebro said:
i want to start my first inject cycle ive been training for a well for a year and a half and am about 185lbs this is what i was thinking

test testosterone enanthate-500mg/week 10
Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - -400mg/ week 10
and maybe Dianabol - methandrostenolone - -30mg ed week1-4
nolvadex-25mgedweek1-10

PCT - post cycle therapy - clomide

what do you guys think thanx for any help
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I would lower it:

1-10 TE 250mg
1-8 Deka 200mg

I guess nolvadex is cool, but deka can have progesterone sides effects that the nolvadex won't cover. It would be a low dose of Deka so probably no worries.

Forget the clomid and run the nolvadex for your PCT.
 
thebro said:
i want to start my first inject cycle ive been training for a well for a year and a half and am about 185lbs this is what i was thinking

test testosterone enanthate-500mg/week 10
Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - -400mg/ week 10
and maybe Dianabol - methandrostenolone - -30mg ed week1-4
nolvadex-25mgedweek1-10

PCT - post cycle therapy - clomide

what do you guys think thanx for any help
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since its your first cycle, i think you could half the doses on the injectables and still get just as large

more isnt always better
 
that's seems like a lot to me for a first cycle. You could probably just get away with the test @ 250 and take the d-bol, but have to ever thought of taking anadrol instead I respond better to it for some reason.
 
how about 250mg test-e ew for 10 weeks.
dermacrin sustain for pct...


but again how ald are you and I still think you need more then a year in the gym.
 
UkKaReD said:
that's seems like a lot to me for a first cycle. You could probably just get away with the test @ 250 and take the Dianabol - methandrostenolone - , but have to ever thought of taking anadrol instead I respond better to it for some reason.
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U just suggested a new comer take anadrol??!?!?!?!! Right! All im saying..

DONT TAKE ANADROL...
 
5x10 said:
since its your first cycle, i think you could half the doses on the injectables and still get just as large

more isnt always better
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agreed. newbies please take note..
 
UkKaReD said:
that's seems like a lot to me for a first cycle. You could probably just get away with the test @ 250 and take the Dianabol - methandrostenolone - , but have to ever thought of taking anadrol instead I respond better to it for some reason.
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fuckwit advise here
 
needtogetaas said:
how about 250mg test-e ew for 10 weeks.
dermacrin sustain for PCT - post cycle therapy - ...


but again how ald are you and I still think you need more then a year in the gym.
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excellent advise here. your a good bro needto
 
UkKaReD said:
that's seems like a lot to me for a first cycle. You could probably just get away with the test @ 250 and take the Dianabol - methandrostenolone - , but have to ever thought of taking anadrol instead I respond better to it for some reason.
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little harsh aint it abombs? first cycle?
 
whether it is good or not this is what i did for the 1st, tried test e 300 wk for the 1st 3 weeks had no siedes, i upped it to 400 wk now getting little oily skin, noticing some gains getting comments about lookin huge, etc...
 
its going up to wk 4 got cycle 2 on the highway, u know big powder scare and all this wwe shit thought i better get it on the way lol. after 3 full weeks up 9 pounds, soliding up, shirts tight etc, its a beautiful thing
 
hstern said:
its going up to wk 4 got cycle 2 on the highway, u know big powder scare and all this wwe shit thought i better get it on the way lol. after 3 full weeks up 9 pounds, soliding up, shirts tight etc, its a beautiful thing
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good to hear bro just keep at it and enjoy
 
needtogetaas said:
how about 250mg test-e ew for 10 weeks.
dermacrin sustain for PCT - post cycle therapy - ...


but again how ald are you and I still think you need more then a year in the gym.
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good advise, save deca for future cycle and lower your test dose this only first cycle.

good luck to you
 
anadrol and suppressive ass deca...yeah those are great to have in a first cycle hahah...good luck bro, everyone needs to know how old you are but you still have to have more time in the gym in my book...
 
needtogetaas said:
I hope your still here in 2010 with me bro...love having you around.
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i should be here brother, theres no reason to leave with good bros here like you, mac and omega
 
xrsist said:
i should be here brother, theres no reason to leave with good bros here like you, mac and omega
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You're too sweet.

I would drop the nolvadex and run an AI instead.
 
Jesus christ androl on a first cycle
Thats like giving plutonioum plants to north korea
=a recipe for disaster

Tell us your stats
save the deca

you could run
1-10 test.e 500mg ew
1-4 deca 50mg ed
that would fucking make you blow up

I am not a firm believer in needing pct after a first cycle
hope thats not offensive to anyone haha

Gh0zt
 
Cauliflower Ear said:
anadrol and suppressive ass Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - ...yeah those are great to have in a first cycle hahah...good luck bro, everyone needs to know how old you are but you still have to have more time in the gym in my book...
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im 19
 
50 mg deca for 4 weeks, is that atypo?
holy ghost said:
Jesus christ androl on a first cycle
Thats like giving plutonioum plants to north korea
=a recipe for disaster

Tell us your stats
save the Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate -

you could run
1-10 test.e 500mg ew
1-4 Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - 50mg ed
that would fucking make you blow up

I am not a firm believer in needing PCT - post cycle therapy - after a first cycle
hope thats not offensive to anyone haha

Gh0zt
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i wanted to just say thank you for all the help and advice from all the ef bro's its much appreciated and i was wondering if i could get extra advice from any1 else privately for diet work out etc.
 
needtogetaas said:
how about 250mg test-e ew for 10 weeks.
dermacrin sustain for PCT - post cycle therapy - ...


I'm going to be doing my first injectable as well...here's what I'm thinking:
(Stats: 40 years old, 5'11, 19.5% bf, 174 pounds- lifting hard for a year and off and on for several).

Test Cyp 250 Ml EW for 10 weeks

Dbol 25mg ED Weeks 1-3

Anavar 20 Mg ED weeks 1-5

Perfect Cycle and Nolva (if needed) on cycle
Clomid for PCT

Any thoughts on the cycle- and also on the dosage and length for PCT?

Any help is much appreciated..
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This was my first cycle and it was awesome. I gained 30 pounds and only lost 5 of it. Just make sure you take .5mgs arimadex ed and .25 proviron ed and .5mgs cabbasar e3d. I gained about 15 pounds in the first month.
 
iceman7230 said:
This was my first cycle and it was awesome. I gained 30 pounds and only lost 5 of it. Just make sure you take .5mgs arimadex ed and .25 proviron ed and .5mgs cabbasar e3d. I gained about 15 pounds in the first month.
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Iceman- who's cycle? If mine- is the arimidex and proviron needed? I just have Nolva and Clomid at the monment...
 
sshadoww said:
Iceman- who's cycle? If mine- is the arimidex and proviron needed? I just have Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - and Clomid at the monment...
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I was talking about the original post bro.

For your cycle I would not use the nolvadex, this is used for pct. Proviron is only really needed with deca but it will increase testosterone with your cycle as well. It works pretty well for your libido also.

I would also up the dose of test to 500mgs ew. For your pct I would include hcg, clomid, nolvadex.
 
iceman7230 said:
I was talking about the original post bro.

For your cycle I would not use the nolvadex, this is used for PCT - post cycle therapy - . Proviron is only really needed with Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - but it will increase testosterone with your cycle as well. It works pretty well for your libido also.

I would also up the dose of test to 500mgs ew. For your PCT - post cycle therapy - I would include HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - , clomid, nolvadex.
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Ahh-ok-thanks man- I would only use the Nolva in case of gyno on cycle because I don't have Arimidex or anything else at hand..just Nolva and Clomid. I appreciate the dosage info, but for my first test I'm gonna keep it at 250mg EW. I was wondering about the Dbol, though- I have 25mg caps and everything I've read says to split the dosage to 2-4 times a day. Anything to do when it's caps?

Appreciate the help!
 
sshadoww said:
Ahh-ok-thanks man- I would only use the Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - in case of gynecomastia on cycle because I don't have Arimidex or anything else at hand..just Nolva and Clomid. I appreciate the dosage info, but for my first test I'm gonna keep it at 250mg EW. I was wondering about the Dianabol - methandrostenolone - , though- I have 25mg caps and everything I've read says to split the dosage to 2-4 times a day. Anything to do when it's caps?

Appreciate the help!
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major highjack of this thread but anyway.. stick with 250mg of test a week for 10 weeks. no need for HCG with that dose and being its your first cycle. (i didnt use it) run the anavar for the full 10 weeks at about 50-60mg ED. anavar isn that harsh on the liver as other orals are. being that the dbol you have is caps you can try to split the caps or just take it at once
 
xrsist said:
major highjack of this thread but anyway.. stick with 250mg of test a week for 10 weeks. no need for HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - with that dose and being its your first cycle. (i didnt use it) run the anavar for the full 10 weeks at about 50-60mg ED. anavar isn that harsh on the liver as other orals are. being that the Dianabol - methandrostenolone - you have is caps you can try to split the caps or just take it at once
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Thanks bro- much obliged. I guess I can try splitting the caps and bump the var a little then. Any recommended time to take them?
 
sshadoww said:
Thanks bro- much obliged. I guess I can try splitting the caps and bump the Anavar - oxandrolone - a little then. Any recommended time to take them?
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you mean the dbol?? half in am half in pm
 
xrsist said:
you mean the Dianabol - methandrostenolone - ?? half in am half in pm
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Yeah- I meant in correlation to each other...I've seen some posts where people say best before a workout, and some say as soon as you wake. So Dbol AM/PM, and Var?

Thanks again.
 
sshadoww said:
Yeah- I meant in correlation to each other...I've seen some posts where people say best before a workout, and some say as soon as you wake. So Dianabol - methandrostenolone - AM/PM, and Anavar - oxandrolone - ?

Thanks again.
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anavar in the am was fine for me
 
sshadoww said:
Yeah- I meant in correlation to each other...I've seen some posts where people say best before a workout, and some say as soon as you wake. So Dianabol - methandrostenolone - AM/PM, and Anavar - oxandrolone - ?

Thanks again.
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Don't do 2 orals at once it will really mess with your liver, stick to one or the other. If your are bulking use the dbol, if you are cutting use the anavar. Both of them should be split up one when you wake up and one 4-6 hours later. A good idea would be to use the dbol weeks 1-4 and the anavar weeks 7-10.

You really need to get some arimadex, AI, or aromasin. Do some research and you will see what I mean.
 
iceman7230 said:
Don't do 2 orals at once it will really mess with your liver, stick to one or the other. If your are bulking use the Dianabol - methandrostenolone - , if you are cutting use the anavar. Both of them should be split up one when you wake up and one 4-6 hours later. A good idea would be to use the Dianabol - methandrostenolone - weeks 1-4 and the anavar weeks 7-10.

You really need to get some arimadex, aromatase inhibitor, or aromasin. Do some research and you will see what I mean.
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Hey- Thanks Iceman-

I'm trying to do a short cycle with the orals because I have to fly internationally in 4-5 weeks. I figured the 2 would be ok for that duration since Anavar isn't too harsh and the Dbol is just a 3 week kicker. I'm thinking that maybe weeks 4 and 5 when I'm not taking Dbol I can boost the Var to 40mg ED along with the Test. I'm wondering if before I leave for my trip, though, if I should boost the test a little more because I may be about 10 days out.
 
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