Need help with 2nd cycle

[mauit44]

thanks bro.. as far as the original poster.. dont mess with tren..

get in the gym.. and stay in there 4-5 times a week.. get your workout routine/diet in check far before you get back on aas.. make the most out of this cycle..

just keep it simple.. if you get everything in check this time i think your gains will be PLENTY good off of just test e


wk 1-12 test e 500mg EW 250mg Every 3 days
AIFM/aromasin ED (1-2 squirts, or 20mg)

pct 15-20 days after last Test shot

research HCG protocol..
clomid 50mg ed 4 wks
nolva 60mg wk 1, 40mg wk2, 20mg wk3, 20mg wk4

find your daily calorie intake you need to be at to maintain, gain, or lose weight.. everyone is different..

but like i said.. keep it simple.. your goals can all be achieved with some good ol test.. you COULD use tbol to kickstart.. VERY FEW orals should be used for longer than 4-6 weeks.. tbol is one of them..

so if you wish..

tbol wk 1-4 50mg ED
test e 1-12 500mg EW


wow i wrote a novel.. good luck bro

What do you think of this as a alternative cycle? And how many weeks should this cycle be for?

500mgs of test per week, 600mgs of primo per week
and 40mgs of anavar ED for 6 weeks
arimidex at about 1mg ED

For PCT: clomid 50mg ed 4 wks
nolva 60mg wk 1, 40mg wk2, 20mg wk3, 20mg wk4

 

[jmead]

What do you think of this as a alternative cycle? And how many weeks should this cycle be for?

500mgs of test per week, 600mgs of primo per week
and 40mgs of anavar ED for 6 weeks
arimidex at about 1mg ED

For PCT: clomid 50mg ed 4 wks
nolva 60mg wk 1, 40mg wk2, 20mg wk3, 20mg wk4

i told you what i thought.. but as far at that goes.. 12 weeks would be good..

arimidex is probably too high, .5mg ED should be plenty

id just skip the primo and save the cash, if your bf is that high id just run some test with an AI, good diet, and cardio will do wonders.. and if you want ya anavar.. you can run that throughout since its not hepatoxic..

 

[mauit44]

i told you what i thought.. but as far at that goes.. 12 weeks would be good..

arimidex is probably too high, .5mg ED should be plenty

id just skip the primo and save the cash, if your bf is that high id just run some test with an AI, good diet, and cardio will do wonders.. and if you want ya anavar.. you can run that throughout since its not hepatoxic..

The only reason I was asking is because many people in the past had told me that one drug alone doesn't work as well as stacking.
Forgive me for being confused.

 

[Ulter]

Jmead makes a lot good points. I would recommend that you use the test 500mg/wk for the 12 weeks too. But you gains will stall in week 8 so that's when you need to add something or stop. So if you want to put the tbol in the beginning to kick the cycle off also put it back in or use anavar or winny, for the last 4 weeks. It's not a bad idea to use eq. You probably should. Use 500mg/wk for 10 weeks with your test.
You should not be using Arimidex. It's too weak and especially at your age. You should be using AIFM instead, or aromasin. Arimidex is a poor choice for cycling in general but for those over 40 it's a REALLY poor choice.
Use the AIFM throughout the cycle and PCT. Use 1000iu/day of HCG for a week at the end of your cycle and then start using clomid for two weeks.

 

[jmead]

Jmead makes a lot good points. I would recommend that you use the test 500mg/wk for the 12 weeks too. But you gains will stall in week 8 so that's when you need to add something or stop. So if you want to put the tbol in the beginning to kick the cycle off also put it back in or use anavar or winny, for the last 4 weeks. It's not a bad idea to use eq. You probably should. Use 500mg/wk for 10 weeks with your test.
You should not be using Arimidex. It's too weak and especially at your age. You should be using AIFM instead, or aromasin. Arimidex is a poor choice for cycling in general but for those over 40 it's a REALLY poor choice.
Use the AIFM throughout the cycle and PCT. Use 1000iu/day of HCG for a week at the end of your cycle and then start using clomid for two weeks.

agree totally about the gains stalling after 8 weeks.. i threw my npp around then, and the gains jumped right back up..

eq is a great drug, pumps and vascularity are fantastic.. its pretty mild though and gains take awhile, so 500-600mg EW for 12-14 weeks is sufficient

 

[mauit44]

Based on my readings, my age(44) and my needs, my second cycle will probaby be as follows:

12 wk cycle; 500mgs Test e, 500mgs Primo x wk, plus Anavar ed for 6 wks.

PCT: Two wks after last injection:clomid 50mg ed 4 wks,
nolva 60mg wk 1, 40mg wk2, 20mg wk3, 20mg wk4

I need help with HCG protocol though; quantity, duration and frequency.

 

[mauit44]

I started the cycle on 23-Jan-2007, and i must say that i am pretty unhappy. I feel weak and have a lot of joint pain lately, especially in the last week or so. My shoulders are killing me and I'm counting the days for this cycle to really kick in and give me a well needed boost. Any suggestions on the shoulder pain?