Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below Here are my stats: I am 5'9', 140 lbs and I am a hard gainer. I have been working out for a while now and I just can't put on the muscle mass that I want. I want to be about 155 - 160 and hard like a rock. I don't do the injection thing so please recommend a cycle for me. I already have the d-bol but since that will give me mostly water weight what else should I add to gain muscle and keep it at the end? Also what doses should I be doing for the highest gains while still being safe?
Need help with 1st cycle
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MikeyLikesJuice
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if you are afraid of the pin, the only oral I really recommend is anavar, but you are going to do d-bol since you have some. I would do 5-6 weeks of it at 30-40mg everyday, you decide. Start at 30mg a day and increase if you feel you have to later
Winny 50mg ED. But seriously, you gotta work up the courage to do pins. You should read peoples' first experiences - 90% of them say they didn't even feel a thing. They were all psyched out and then got this big let down cause they thought it was gonna hurt like hell, when in fact they couldn't feel a thing.
Alot of orals can be pretty bad.
Alot of orals can be pretty bad.
It doesn't sound to me like you are ready to juice just yet. I would just increase you calorie intake and your protein intake and train hard for a good solid year. You should make decent gains just by eating right and training right. But you are probably going to do a cycle anyway so my advice to you is get over your fear of needles be cause IMO test would be the best thing to stack with your dball. I think that test is good in any cycle though. Good luck with your cycle.
Willyumyum
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I agree with bones. Most people at your weight who claim to be hardgainers have imporper diet and/or workout practices. Make sure you are getting 1.5-2 grams of protein PER POUND of bodyweight, daily. and try to up your calorie intake up above 3000 - 3500. If you need help planning your diet drop me an e-mail or something
Good luck
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Good luck
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badazzwhitedude
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You cant stack many orals (or other 17-aa steroids) or you will destroy your liver.
I think a good Test/Fina cycle would be in order here. But, dammit, you gotta use those fucking pins. Oh well. There go those gains.....
I think a good Test/Fina cycle would be in order here. But, dammit, you gotta use those fucking pins. Oh well. There go those gains.....
My guess is diet is your problem. You're nowhere near ready for AS and if you refuse to inject you hardly deserve the priveledge. Eat more than 1500 cals a day and you might grow. Seriously though...Post your diet and training strategies and we'll start there. Orals are not the way to go for anyone and you cetainly have much work to be done before you tinker with the big boy candy.
Steroid_Virgin
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Bro, this is the gods honest truth, im not trying to be a badd ass, i have only donr one cycle, Testanon and EQ, both ttokkyo, i did 250 mg sust, 200 mg eq.. waste of gear if you ask me, my next cycle is going to be double that plus a 25 mg a day dbol, for the first 4 weeks, and wiiny 50mg/day for 5 weeks after i stop the dbol.. now, i was totally, totally freaked out about injections.. completely.. i said no way no how, but my girl just left me i was pissed, i said fuck it, got nothing to lose, how bad can it really hurt... at most, it was slightly uncomfortable, and the truth is, if you use god needles, and good injection techniques, after you initially break the skin, you cant feel shit and the needle slides right in.. at first I was to paranoid to aspirate for my first two shots, but then its just like fuck.. let me see how long i can make the injection last so its not so sore afterwards.. then after the 5-6th week, i started looking foward to injections in sort of a morbid way, and I had to fight to not inject myself before it was time.. and that was my first ever cycle so look.. it really aint that bad at all... I would not lie, I know its been like 6 months since my first cycle, and my second one will kick the shit out of the first one, because now I know, eating and sleeping are truely the key... but seriously dont sweat the needle, it sounds soooooo much worse then it is, just check out two thicks injection site, or talk to a mod or two... hell, I'll walk you through your first and i can promise you, you cant wait until your second..
I'm ready
I have read all your responses and you're right. I was just being a little too cautious. I want to make good gains and I will do the pin. Please help me build a proper 1st cycle. I don't want a huge stack just something that will give me noticeable gains that I will keep at the end of the cycle. I understand now that Test is the best to use but which Test? Winny sounds common also. Help me build a cycle. That will give me big, hard gains.
One more question... When you say to take, for example, 250mg a day, how do I break that up in a day or do I inject it all at once? Could you tell me the proper times during a week, what is the best time of day and how much of each product to use.
I know this is alot of questions but it will help me along with all the other new people that are just afraid to ask.
I have read all your responses and you're right. I was just being a little too cautious. I want to make good gains and I will do the pin. Please help me build a proper 1st cycle. I don't want a huge stack just something that will give me noticeable gains that I will keep at the end of the cycle. I understand now that Test is the best to use but which Test? Winny sounds common also. Help me build a cycle. That will give me big, hard gains.
One more question... When you say to take, for example, 250mg a day, how do I break that up in a day or do I inject it all at once? Could you tell me the proper times during a week, what is the best time of day and how much of each product to use.
I know this is alot of questions but it will help me along with all the other new people that are just afraid to ask.
