Need help Newer Gear User needs Anti Estrogen help

[dieselreaction]

Hello I need to know what/how to run anti estrogen with my cycle properly.

Currently taking:
Sustanon 250mg twice a week
Dianabol 20mg every day

I have Clomid on hand as well as Arimidex I just dont know which to take or both and how much?

Ive heard that clomid is for pct only however alot of ppl say to run it with your whole cycle. What do Ido??


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[Zyglamail]

There really should be a test people need to take before using AAS. The knowledge you seek should have been firmly grasped before you started a cycle, not after you started. At least you actually have an AI On hand.

clomid and adex 2 two totally different things but both can prevent you from needing a bra.

I have yet to have anyone show me lab work where 500mg wk test did not raise their estrogen levels above the normal range man. Some, even though they have high E levels can get by with no man boobs. But most usually post here 4-5 weeks into the cycle they they are all bloated and have sensitive nips crying that they are getting gyno.

Since you likely have no idea where your E levels normally are and likely have no idea where they are now that you have been taking 500mg week of test all we can do is guess how much adex to use but I would probably start around .5mg every other day. If you dont get all achy or get signs of gyno get labs done near end of cycle to see where hormone level;s are at and then you will know how you react to the drugs your using.

I can understand 20 years ago people not knowing the details of how all this stuff works. But today with the mass amount of knowledge/lectures/studies etc on the internet, there is no reason someone shouldnt know what all these drugs do before using them.

 

[dirtydeed]

There really should be a test people need to take before using AAS. The knowledge you seek should have been firmly grasped before you started a cycle, not after you started. At least you actually have an AI On hand.

clomid and adex 2 two totally different things but both can prevent you from needing a bra.

I have yet to have anyone show me lab work where 500mg wk test did not raise their estrogen levels above the normal range man. Some, even though they have high E levels can get by with no man boobs. But most usually post here 4-5 weeks into the cycle they they are all bloated and have sensitive nips crying that they are getting gyno.

Since you likely have no idea where your E levels normally are and likely have no idea where they are now that you have been taking 500mg week of test all we can do is guess how much adex to use but I would probably start around .5mg every other day. If you dont get all achy or get signs of gyno get labs done near end of cycle to see where hormone level;s are at and then you will know how you react to the drugs your using.

I can understand 20 years ago people not knowing the details of how all this stuff works. But today with the mass amount of knowledge/lectures/studies etc on the internet, there is no reason someone shouldnt know what all these drugs do before using them.

Agree, they don't ask questions beforehand cause they don't want to hear there not ready but have no problem gathering information when there body shuts down. When I started with 500mg test only I went sparingly with .25mg adex twice a week & had bloods done & e2 was running high so I ended up with .5mg eod & that was only 500mg test but that's multiple times what your body would normally produce so it's gonna respond by trying to control it (conversion)

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[dieselreaction]

The thing is I have naturally low test levels ive been taking test cyp for a couple yrs at 250mg every 21 days (doctor prescribed) however when I started my cycle I stopped the cyp .

Ive done cycles of test in the past with no gyno problems however this is the 1st time ive ran anything along with the test (dbol)
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[Zyglamail]

The thing is I have naturally low test levels ive been taking test cyp for a couple yrs at 250mg every 21 days (doctor prescribed) however when I started my cycle I stopped the cyp .

Ive done cycles of test in the past with no gyno problems however this is the 1st time ive ran anything along with the test (dbol)
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250mg every 21 days is a fairly low TRT dose and really shouldnt require much if an AI.

500mg a week is almost 5x what your TRT dose is however and id say >95% of the people who take that much test get elevated E levels and a good percentage of them will also get sides of high E.

My point is if you are going to run a cycle do your homework. Know what the drugs do and why they are used AND get lab work done during a cycle so you can make sure your taking an appropriate AI dose.

Just because you cycled in the past and didnt take an AI doesnt mean you will get away with it again.

In my book, taking 500mgs a week and coming to the forum crying your getting itchy/puffy nips because your not using an AI is the same thing as coming here to forum crying because you intentionally slammed your dick in a car door and now its broken.
Neither one should happen.

 

[dirtydeed]

Number 1 your trt Dr sucks I would find another almost everyone on trt injects once a week some twice...2nd you need the adex, I would start with at least .5mg e3d maybe eod but we can only guess without bloodwork....you know if you googled your question you would have found the answer in 30sec

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[dieselreaction]

Thats the thing im not expierencing any sides at the moment im just asking because people say to run ae anyways and I just wanted peoples opinions on what to use

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