Need help for first time

[Nitin gujjar]

Hey guys I'm new on here , I'm looking to try some oral stuff , never really used much as I'm new to everything steroid base . Any suggestions on good oral stacks??? I've been looking at Tbol stacked with stana? Or something like that, tbol sounds amazing , cheers . Really just need advice on where to start . I have been doing my research , have done anavar and stana in past but yeah didn't really know what I was doing .

plz help me

 

[wootoom]

u should never do an oral only cycle...a lot of beginners wanna do this but u should always run a test base especially with orals.........

I totally disagree. Oral only cycles for a first cycle is not useless. Jesus, I love told this story a million times on here...the best (keep able) gains I've got was off 60-80mg of Var for 10 weeks. It built my base off this cycle. Especially when you are younger.

 

[j_p]

I totally disagree. Oral only cycles for a first cycle is not useless. Jesus, I love told this story a million times on here...the best (keep able) gains I've got was off 60-80mg of Var for 10 weeks. It built my base off this cycle. Especially when you are younger.

I wouldent say pointless, not not optimal IMO.. that var cycle with 100-200mg teste added ew would likely have only added to that.
my main worry is sides from lowT due to shutdown while on other steroids other than test and limiting gains to top it off. atleast with test added to any cycle you mostly got your bases covered in that area.
hey im not judging, i built my base and did my first cycle of DECA ONLY for 11 weeks and didnt have dick issues and made some gains. but i would never rec that to anyone or do it again because I know better now ( plus my doc gave it too me so i took his word for it and didnt complain lol) I love my deca but some test in there is a godsend.

if i would rec any oral it would be var......, but OP I highly rec something more along these lines:
wk1-12 400-500mg teste or cyp
wk1-14 AI : Dex 0.25mg eod
wk14-18/19 PCT Clomid 50mg ed and tamox 20mg ed

^ simple and effective : )

 

[Stackinplates]

Test cyp or enan at 300mg per week. All you need for a first cycle. Make sure you have a PCT set up as well.

My man giving solid advice !! No need for fucking 500 mg on a first cycle

If ya can't get gains on 300 with ur diet and training then ur regimen sucks !!

But honestly at ur age I still have gas left i the tank to train with out test ! That's just my opinion.

 

[Stackinplates]

I totally disagree. Oral only cycles for a first cycle is not useless. Jesus, I love told this story a million times on here...the best (keep able) gains I've got was off 60-80mg of Var for 10 weeks. It built my base off this cycle. Especially when you are younger.

Sup bitch

I need that test with my var or else I feel like shit !! But I have known many that have had the same experience as you but the question is do they have legit var?!?!! .. U know my doc keeps that on tap for me right us Pharma var is the shit!!

But imo 300 mg test prop would be better than 60 mg var

But prop first cycle = pip like a muthafuka

That's just me though

 

[shredzbrah]

Can anyone help me as well i'm looking to cycle test prop, deca and anavar. pct would be n2 guard. i'm sitting at 15% bf around 6ft tall and 84kgs.
i need suggestions on the dosage or any add ons.
advice would be appreciated.
thanks

 

[Saiyan7]

Prop is a short ester. Deca is a long ester. It's usually best to put long with long and short with short.
So test cyp and deca works better or prop and npp.

Also n2g as a pct is absolutely ridiculous. You'll ruin yourself with a garbage pct like that. You need clomid and nolva as your pct.

How old are you? Let's straighten this stuff out for you.

 

[Stackinplates]

Can anyone help me as well i'm looking to cycle test prop, deca and anavar. pct would be n2 guard. i'm sitting at 15% bf around 6ft tall and 84kgs.

i need suggestions on the dosage or any add ons.

advice would be appreciated.

thanks

Stats Please

everyone wants to leave out age and training history

 

[shredzbrah]

i'm 20 been lifting for 4 years now. workout 5-6 days a week

 

[Saiyan7]

20 is young bro. Most will try to persuade you away from aas at your age. If you are healthy your test should be high enough to make solid gains alone. You don't want to guck with your endocrine system and HPTA and all that.

Have you ran anything previously? Aas, PH, sarms? Anything?