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Need diet help for a huge 325 pounder??????

Cubanito17

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Hey guys I normally don't post here I'm mostly on the Powerlifting forums but here is where I'd be able to get help for my cousin. Her stats right now are 17, 5 6, 325lbs maybe 25+%Body fat and needs to lose ALOT OF WEIGHT. I was wondering if there is a diet she can do because she might be willing to do some cardio but what can really help her at her stage. Any help is always appreciated. She does eat meat, chicken, fish, veggies w/fatty dressing, etc. Thank you in advance.
 
She can either go the regular low carb deal, or if shes willing to try something new, (but hard) keto, but she cant cheat while on it, it could backfire.

Get some basic supplements to aid things, nothing like ECA seing as it may be dangerous to her, better choices (HCA,Yohimbe ..). A Multivitamin (2x/day) would be wise seing as how diets may leave out some nutrient input.

Liquid diets that put some emphasis on MRP and protein shakes have been proven very sucessful also, eating more in frequentcy than quantity helps keep the metabolism and energy high also (5-6 small meals), stick to white meat and fish instead of red, and the best cardio is done in the am before feed.
 
Very simple when you are that heavy. Low carbs, low fat, low calories, cardio (min. 3 days a week.) and some weight training. BTW, i really doubt she is 325 at 25%BF. That would give her about 245 lbs of muscle. All she needs to do is follow a diet to a tee with no cheating. Does she have willpower?
 
about the atkins diet she tried it but didn't work for her it would hurt her liver too much.

I tried to put her on diet fuel by twinlab it sped up her heart rate WAY TOO MUCH then I told her try stacker and she would only get 4 hours of sleep a night and got sick because of it and it stil didn't supress her apetite.Where can I find the keto diet???And how efficient has it been so far. See I found one diet for her but she doesn't weightlift it's a diet by a powerlifter but he helped a woman lose ALOT of weight i believe 100lbs. here's the link

http://www.testosterone.net/html/body_107fat.html part 1


http://www.testosterone.net/html/body_107fat.html part 2

See if you think this should help her any I dont really know what she wants to get down to but I feel that if she weighed about 140lbs she would be good. That's 185lbs to lose I'm guessing that on this diet the one I posted it will take her a good 18months.
 
Cure isn't your body 75% water so I figured it this way she's not very strong for her size so I said the rest was all fat. How do you know how much muscle%, body fat%, water weight % your body has I know my BF% is 8%, don't know about the rest though. Thanx man.

And thanx to the others who replied, anyone else.
 
WILL POWER

hardly any will power for her when it comes to food she does eat bout 6 times a day but full meals and three of those are TACO BELL uughhhh nasty I hate that shit it doesn't even taste like food. So i told her that's the first thing that has to go and she did it, for a day and that was it. So I'll be the one pushing her to do this and follow through with it even if I do the cardio with her although that's not a good idea for me to do cardio, but I can find someone to do it.
 
Dude, it sounds like you want this more than your cousin does. She can only stick to a diet for a day and will only do cardio if you help? She doesn't want it. Let her remain fat until she decides that she reallys WANTS it. Not "Yeah, I would like to be skinny", but "I WANT to be skinny and I will do what is necessary to achieve my goal."
 
Grizzly said:
Dude, it sounds like you want this more than your cousin does. She can only stick to a diet for a day and will only do cardio if you help? She doesn't want it. Let her remain fat until she decides that she reallys WANTS it. Not "Yeah, I would like to be skinny", but "I WANT to be skinny and I will do what is necessary to achieve my goal."

Exactly. If she's that big at 17 years old, she has a REAL problem, one that will get worse before it gets better. I her attitude is as you describe, it's doubtful she really wants to help herself. Big Griz is right, sounds like she's expecting you to provide her motivation which NEVER works.

Also, do not put this girl on anything but multivitamins. Any kind of stimulant will tax her already overworked heart too much. She needs diet and excercise right now, simple as that. The supps can come later.
 
Couldn't agree with gym and griz any more. Your cousin needs help... but remember... you can bring a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. Do your best to give her information and explain to her that how she stands right now is flat-out UNHEALTHY. Give her the information you discover and wish her the best. If she's really motivated she'll get it together.

3 easy tips to weight loss.

1) Eat fewer calories (cut it to 10cal/lb. ideal weight... for her I would guess around 1300-1600 cals/day)

2) Cardio!! 3-4x a week, even if it's only walking.... 30 mins. a session, increase it gradually (+5 mins. a week or so).

3) LIFT -> she may not seem too keen on this idea as no girl wants to have big arms or a big ass... focus on high rep sets resting only 30 sec. to a min. between each set.

Good luck!

--Hess
 
I agree with these guys 100%. What you're trying to do is noble, but in alot of ways its like trying to get an alcoholic or an addict help when they still want to drink and use. It ain't going to happen. Alot of this comes down to common sense. The name of this board isn't "Average Fitness," but sometimes, the short term goal of being average is OK. Even things like walks in the park, fruit instead of cake, cereal in the morning instead of bacon, egg and cheese sandwiches for breakfast, turnkey sandwiches instead of Taco Bell, can help get somebody from where she is to a healthier level.
Good luck, but I'm afraid there's not much help you can give if she doesn't want it.
 
Alright, I almost never post on threads anymore where people ask about their diet set-ups, but this one sort of caught my eyes. This is where simple planned diets excel...ala...Body-For-Life!!!

At someone her size, this diet will do wonders for her in that is very easy and simple to do. It's sort of like an abcdefg...diet. It will not wear her out either by being too strict.

Here's what I would do:

Start her on 5-6 meals per day as it will help keep satiety firm.

Now, on this diet Buttplug recommends taking portion sizes the size of her palm (or the size of a cassette). Although this is not the most accurate way of determining calorie consumption, it will do the job in this case as it makes things easy.

Meals 1-4:
Take a portion size of a carb/protein/veggie

***She can substitute meal replacements in if she wants to.
***Have her avoid fruits...at least for right now.

Protein sources should be stuff like lean meats, meal replacement drinks, eggs, cottage cheese, poulty, fish, etc...The usual things. Protein is pretty basic in that it is a pretty small list to choose from.

Carb sources: Try to print out a list of the Glycemic Index and have her choose from foods that are about 55-60 and below for her carb choices. There are various choices to choose from so she should have a hay-day here.

Vege's: Pretty self explanatory...

Tell her not to drown her food with butters and fried oils when cooking.

Her plates should have these 3 sources on it for the first 4 meals.

MEALS 5 AND 6: These should still consist of the protein portions and maybe some protein powder drinks, but instead of having a carb portion have her double up on the vegetable portions. Therefore, instead of having a carb portion and a vege portion, she will have two vege portions.

Also, she could substitute nuts and healthy fats in these meals. Remember though, it doesn't take many nuts and fats to add up fast.

Incorporate refeeds once a week for the first few weeks and let her eat whatever she want to. Sunday are good days to do this on, or whatever day best fits her svchedule.

After awhile, she can start incorporating refeeds twice a week to every 3 days to help things out. However, she may not want to do this until after she has already lost a fair amount of weight.

Weight training: Since you frequent the training board, you may want to take this into your own hands but...

If she is not ready for weight training, then just start her out on doing cardio every day (except for sundays) until she is ready. However, I would highly suggest you get her motivated for future plans of weight training. With the BFL program, i found that the workout scheme really worked well with the diet. Have her alternate upper body and lower body workouts EOD. In other words, one day upper body, next day cardio, next day lower body, next day cardio, then repeat. Have her take-off sundays when she refeeds...if she wants to, then just have her do some cardio.

Personally, I like doing short bouts of cardio for about 30 minutes using high intensity interval training, but she may want to start out using moderate cardio before advancing to more advanced schemes.

Above most things she will need your support!!! ALWAYS tell her she is looking better and that she is doing a great job!!! Remember, the hardest part is getting people motivated to actually do the diets. You cannot hold her hand and make her do things she doesn't want to do. However, show that you are interested in helping her, and do whatever you can to show this. You may want to even help her with her meals starting out so that she knows what she is doing. I find more satisfaction in helping others than I do in helping myself. If you are serious about helping her bro, then show it!!!

I would like to conclude that with her being 17 years old and obese as she is, then she may be suffering from both laziness/lack of motivation and maybe even some sort of depression. Again, she will need you man. At that age, she is still in high school, and these are some rough for some, especially if you are obese. Some kids/teens can be down-right cruel!!! And last but not least, there is always the chance that there could be some sort of hormonal imbalance which may be making things worse. In this case, she may want to go and get a check-up to see if her body is out of whack. See if the "healthier" dieting makes a difference.

Good luck bro, and whatever you and her decide, keep us updated!!!

MR. BMJ
 
Grizzly: dude that's a little harsh but true and i've told her and the family has tried to help, but she doesn't eat healthy at all and I do want it more for her b/c she complains to me all the time bout not being able to be wit someone and I'm like if you were skinnier I would be beating guys off you and i prefer that than to have her health endangered
Gym i understand that but as her family i want whats best for her and sometimes want to force myself to do it more than she does i hope you understand that part as u can tell i'm hispanic so hispanics stick together when it comes to family
hess explain how it's wrong
Mr BMJ thanx alot man i'll tell her about it for right now and 50lbs i'll keep her off the lifting after that i'll work something up(starting now) so she won't get big but her skin will tighten up you know. Thank you I really appreciate this it sounds good. One thing for how long should she try to see results.
 
Cubanito17 said:
Grizzly: dude that's a little harsh but true and i've told her and the family has tried to help, but she doesn't eat healthy at all and I do want it more for her b/c she complains to me all the time bout not being able to be wit someone and I'm like if you were skinnier I would be beating guys off you and i prefer that than to have her health endangered

Yeah, I suppose it's slightly harsh, but it's still the way it is. I can tell you this from personal experience. When I was in high shcool and my first year of college I was fat. Peaked at 330 as a Junior in HS. Granted, I was still athletic and all, but I was fat none the less. I always thought to myself "Boy, I'd like to be ripped up." So, I'd diet a little and all but never very seriously. Then, one day, I decided that "I WANT to be ripped up and look like one of those dudes from Flex." Now, 4 1/2 years later here I am. Still not quite looking like a pro, but coming closer everyday. I've even done two shows. It all comes down to the difference between "like" and "want."

It's good that you should mention how she complains about not being able to be with anyone. I was going to tell you to use that as motivation for her. Throughout highschool I couldn't get a girlfriend, right? Totally bummed me out, but atleast I knew why it was. Well, right after graduation I did get a girlfriend, but she was the kind of girl that fat dudes get. I didn't want that. By some miracle during my freshman year of college I hooked up with this gorgeous girl. How I did that I don't know. It's the only time I've ever been with a girl with a set of abs and I was 305lbs. Either way, that's when I knew that I could never go back to chubby girls. So, I let my dick lead the way and dropped 50lbs. Tell her to think with her...I don't know...her ovaries? Maybe that will help.
 
Grizzly I understand bro I used to be a little on the heavy side 200lbs but now I'm down to 165lbs and look pretty good, but i dont lift for looks. I tried to scare her by telling her she can have a heartattack b/c the heart stops pumping b/c of the obesity but that doesn't work so I gotta think of something that sounds really bad, bad enough to get her to lose weight. Thanx
 
I don't lift so much for looks anymore, either. Technically, that's not true since bodybuilding is almost completely aesthetic, but I'm working on getting ugly big, which surpasses lifting for looks. But, here, look at it like this. Her health obviously doesn't mean shit to her. Hell, health doesn't mean shit to most people. Tell her whatever it takes to get her to do something. Regardless of the initial motivation, the health aspect is bound to follow as a simple by-product of losing weight and starting to exercise.
 
Here's a shocking (and blunt) proposition for her:

Fat women typically have a hard time meeting guys. More importantly, fat women have an even harder time getting hired for respectable jobs. Now, because even a fat, ugly, rich guy can still attract a young, little, hottie by waving his wallet around, your cousin will not only have a difficult time getting a job of her own, she won't even be able to count on marrying rich.

Her prospects? -- Stay fat, be lonely, ill, and poor (and more than likely miserable) OR anything but the previous alternative.
 
grizzly: so are you looking into incorporating powerlifting :D . I tell ya straight out I'm not like most of the real powerlifters but it's the way I train and strength is what I go for anything that comes along with that is fine with me i.e. cuts, etc.
N-10 dude to tell ya that truth my cuz is a High school drop out and works in a doctors office making decent $$, and bout the boyfriend thing she's got some dude that is 22 and is a weightlifter doesn't go for looks or strength he just lifts b/c he likes too and he isn't huge he's 6 1 240lbs somewhere round there, but I guess he just likes her and if he hurts her I'll hurt him, but that isn't the point I know she has to lose weight whether it's for herself or someone else. I've been trying to talk to the guy to see if he can help me b/c she won't help herself and hard to believe:rolleyes: but she might listen to him more than me.
 
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