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Hey Guys, I am in need of some really good, solid advice. I am 21, a college Junior, and will be entering my senior season in 2014. I play LB for a Div-1 school. Right now I am looking to get better for my last season at college, and also for other career opportunities that may include the NFL. If I entered the draft this year, it is projected that I would be a 6-7 round pick, or not drafted at all. I am 6-3, 242, with minimal body fat. Currently running a 4.7 40 yard dash, repping 225 on the bench close to 30 times, and maxing out around 400. My Squat is close to 600. I am looking to get Bigger, Stronger, and Faster.

This will be my first cycle, and I have heard a bunch of different things from my fellow players and some trainers. Some say take this, for this long, other say take this.. and so on. I really don't know if any of them know what they are talking about. I want to do this right, and have a lot at risk. I have to deal with drug testing, so I have to take that into consideration. The chances of this happening during the off-season is minimal, but I don't want to take anything that lingers in the system for a long period. So this is where I need you guys. I have come up with an outline of what I want to do, but need you guys to take a look and critique it.

1-8 Test Prop, 50mg/eod
1-8 TNE, 100mg/workout days
1-8 Anavar, 80mg/day

Let me know wht you think about that please. My PCT will be an all-natural one, so please suggest what would be the best route to take with that. Usually when an athlete gets busted, it is for HCG, or Clomid so I want to avoid those.

Thanks for your help.
 
I've read the detection time for Prop and Var are 2-3 weeks. Then Suspension is 1-3 days.. with TNE just a little longer than suspension. There really isn't a chance of getting tested during the off season, so would I have to worry about that with just 2-3 week detection time?

Also, how would I draw of a suspension cycle? Just 1 cc a day?
 
Just the off-season, planning in the spring before the official season starts. In my 3 years of playing, I have never seen a person tested during the off season. I think there has to be "reasonable suspicion" for a test to be warranted."
 
you can run that cycle and then for pct run T stack Rx which is all natural. you can run the T stack year round without worry about being tested and it will make you aggressive and strong.. as close to be on juice as you are going to get without being on.

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Thank you for the advice Steve. I was thinking about a combo of Test Stack and Unleashed for PCT, and then continuing on it. I have been running a combo of Animal Test and Animal Stak for 42 days, then Animal M-Stak for 21, and repeat. Do you think the Test Stack and Unleashed would be better than this?

How would you draw up a Test Suspension cycle? 100mg per day for 4-6 weeks? On workout days take about an hour before workout?

I am also debating HGH, at 10iu post workout on lifting days(Mon, Wed, Fri). Any thoughts on that?

If I make it big, I will keep you in mind!
 
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collegeLB said:
Thank you for the advice Steve. I was thinking about a combo of Test Stack and Unleashed for PCT, and then continuing on it. I have been running a combo of Animal Test and Animal Stak for 42 days, then Animal M-Stak for 21, and repeat. Do you think the Test Stack and Unleashed would be better than this?

How would you draw up a Test Suspension cycle? 100mg per day for 4-6 weeks? On workout days take about an hour before workout?

I am also debating HGH, at 10iu post workout on lifting days(Mon, Wed, Fri). Any thoughts on that?

If I make it big, I will keep you in mind!
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you don't need hgh right now... that shouldn't be an option... 10 ius a day is extreme amounts and that is what will bring on long term side effects that could be very bad... run tne at 100 - 150 mg on workout days... you don't want to use it every day though... your test levels are going to be all over the place... it can be quite a painful injection as well so keep that in mind... you should really strongly consider adding GW-501516 to your cycle... you want to really enhance your performance, that will do it...

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Thank you for the input. I've been reading that 10-15iu a few times could be beneficial in short duration's for performance, rather than 4-5iu everyday. I also am aware of the pain from the suspension/TNE shot. That is why I first planned to try the TNE because I heard the oil based is milder than the water based. Is there anyway to keep test levels stable?

For PCT, I want to stay away from the common drugs like HCG, Clomid, and Nolva. Usually when you here of an athlete being busted, it is for those drugs, because they linger in the system.
 
collegeLB said:
Thank you for the advice Steve. I was thinking about a combo of Test Stack and Unleashed for PCT, and then continuing on it. I have been running a combo of Animal Test and Animal Stak for 42 days, then Animal M-Stak for 21, and repeat. Do you think the Test Stack and Unleashed would be better than this?

How would you draw up a Test Suspension cycle? 100mg per day for 4-6 weeks? On workout days take about an hour before workout?

I am also debating HGH, at 10iu post workout on lifting days(Mon, Wed, Fri). Any thoughts on that?

If I make it big, I will keep you in mind!
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T stack is the best natty supp on the market.. its pricey but its a lot of bang for the buck because it has 90 caps per bottle.. really you can get away with just 1 cap per day but for you I recommend 2-3.

for suspension I would research some logs on that.. its rare that guys ever run it, very painful.. I have never messed with it for that reason plus who wants to inject everyday anyway? not me
 
collegeLB said:
Thank you for the input. I've been reading that 10-15iu a few times could be beneficial in short duration's for performance, rather than 4-5iu everyday. I also am aware of the pain from the suspension/TNE shot. That is why I first planned to try the TNE because I heard the oil based is milder than the water based. Is there anyway to keep test levels stable?

For PCT, I want to stay away from the common drugs like HCG, Clomid, and Nolva. Usually when you here of an athlete being busted, it is for those drugs, because they linger in the system.
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you can drop the clomid but i highly recommend everything else in the pct... you will love ostarine as well... You will especially love gw with the way it gives you endurance and allows you to push yourself like you have never been able to... you will love it...

ive used oil based tne and i assure you, it is the most painful injection out there... i have never had anything more painful and im injecting 3 ml of primo at a time bro... just keep that in mind...
 
I am not too concerned with the price of anything. I am on scholarship, so my school, lodging, and food are all paid for. I get $12,000 worth of student loans each semester which is basically cash. I also have 2 parents that love me very very much.

You are making the TNE sound like so much fun, but you do what you got to do I guess. My roommate/bestfriend is pre-med so he will be doing the injections so maybe that will help a bit.

I am unaware if osta and GW are one of the banned substances. Do you know what the detection time for those are? I'd like to give the GW a try, especially with my speed training that will kick anybodies ass.
 
I have a friend who also plays LB at the division 1 level. He plans on running a cycle starting in May, and ending mid July, then do a natty pct.

He plans on taking test prop, dbol, proviron and aromasin. All these drugs have a detection time of roughly 2 weeks.
 
That's about when I plan to start mine, perhaps a little bit earlier though. Also thinking about something similar but need more input.
 
collegeLB said:
That's about when I plan to start mine, perhaps a little bit earlier though. Also thinking about something similar but need more input.
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So ncaa shouldn't test in the summer?

At my friends school, their AD tested a few random guys in October, but ncaa didn't even test them in season. I imagine they will test more this spring.
 
collegeLB said:
That's about when I plan to start mine, perhaps a little bit earlier though. Also thinking about something similar but need more input.
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the T stack Rx is probably your best bet if you are concerned about being tested.

its as close to the real thing as you are going to get without being busted .. I mean you have that scholarship and free education, don't blow it by doing something stupid

I put together a writeup check it out to learn more http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/a...-before-test-stack-rx-came-along-1257623.html
 
stevesmi said:
the T stack Rx is probably your best bet if you are concerned about being tested.

its as close to the real thing as you are going to get without being busted .. I mean you have that scholarship and free education, don't blow it by doing something stupid

I put together a writeup check it out to learn more http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/a...-before-test-stack-rx-came-along-1257623.html
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Stevesmi, it's not guaranteed that the T stack Rx will pass a drug test. There are a lot of common supplements that wouldn't pass a ncaa test.

For example, C4 is banned because It has a certain stimulant in it. Lots of players in nfl have failed tests for muscletech products. That's why most athletes use musclepharm or eas or even advocare products. Those are all made for athletes who are being tested.
 
And of course there have been cases where the supplement company puts an ingredient in their product that is not under the ingredients label.
 
curls4girls said:
Stevesmi, it's not guaranteed that the T stack Rx will pass a drug test. There are a lot of common supplements that wouldn't pass a ncaa test.

For example, C4 is banned because It has a certain stimulant in it. Lots of players in nfl have failed tests for muscletech products. That's why most athletes use musclepharm or eas or even advocare products. Those are all made for athletes who are being tested.
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yeah he needs to take the bottle to his team trainer/doc and ask if its okay.
 
The NCAA policy is "year round testing" but I have not personally seen anyone tested during the summer. And usually the "random" testing is so random, we get a heads up a couple weeks before hand that something may be going down. Personally, I play for a smaller MAC school, so find it hard to believe they are going to be coming after me.

The NCAA banned list sucks because they don't provide you with an actual list, everything is generalized in a category. Every supplement I take is looked at and approved by the staff. But they will tell you to be cautious with things like pre-workouts, because they contain caffeine. So they don't have great idea of what can be used and what not. One of the trainers actually told me I should get on some Deca in the off-season. After looking into that I found out he was an idiot. The Animal Test, Stak, and M-Stak are were all approved, so I don't think there should be a problem with Test Stack.

I think I am going to go with TNE, Anavar, and GW-50 for 6 weeks, and see how that treats me. Then Continue the GW-50 a little bit longer.

1-6 TNE, 150mg/pre-workout (MON, WED, FRI)
1-6 Anavar, 80mg/day
1-12 GW-50, 20mg/day
1-12 Test Stack, 3 caps/day
1-12 Unleashed, 6 caps/day
7-10 MK-2866, 25mg/day

Something along those lines, and then continue on the Test Stack and Unleashed.
 
^^^ just to let you know.. one of my clients is MMA fighter. he takes T stack and he gets tested often. so I am 99% sure you will be fine.

also with the T stack you can only use the code once.. so definitely jump on the buy 2 get 1 FREE deal.

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PM me if you need any more help on using it, I use it myself year round.. honest to god 1 cap a day will make you aggressive as shit. so you can imagine what 2 or 3 caps will do for you
 
Thanks again for the help Steve. I will be buying up a bunch of Test Stack soon. First, going to do a little bit of research on it just to make sure it won't cause any problems.
 
collegeLB said:
Thanks again for the help Steve. I will be buying up a bunch of Test Stack soon. First, going to do a little bit of research on it just to make sure it won't cause any problems.
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Dude, drop that anavar. I love it but the pumps you get from anavar and winny are crippling. I wish EQ didn't hang so long... Perfect for football.

curls4girls said:
And of course there have been cases where the supplement company puts an ingredient in their product that is not under the ingredients label.
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Ya... They will establish a reputation by incorporating a methylated compound and won't list it. This is referred to as "batch-dosing."
 
Thanks for the suggestions. I was not aware of the pumps from Var. I looked into EQ but it's long detection isn't an option. Would T-Bol be a good option instead of Var?
 
collegeLB said:
Thanks for the suggestions. I was not aware of the pumps from Var. I looked into EQ but it's long detection isn't an option. Would T-Bol be a good option instead of Var?
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T-bol is detectable for 8 days and has good performance properties. I do not know about the pumps because I have never sampled it. I came very close to doing so because var was dry for a bit but then I got just enough. But I know it's a different chemical structure then both Anavar and Winnie. It is not nearly as toxic as other orols either.

Halo is awesome but it is detectable for two months and it is super toxic. It is a shame because the strength properties are obnoxious. It is 15 times stronger than test. But again, it is detectable for up to two months.
 
But if he starts his cycle in May & kickstarts it with Halo, then the 2 month detection wouldn't matter...that would be just enough time to get out of his system for when he will get tested.
 
curls4girls said:
But if he starts his cycle in May & kickstarts it with Halo, then the 2 month detection wouldn't matter...that would be just enough time to get out of his system for when he will get tested.
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That's what I was thinking. I'm wondering how well GW and Osta would keep the gains you get. Halo makes you mean too.
 
You guys are giving me a lot to think about, especially with the kick starting with Halo. 2-3 weeks at the beginning would make since, and it should be cleared by time everything is over with. Does halo cause any type of muscle pumps?

Does anyone know what the exact detection time for MK-2877 and GW-50 is?
 
collegeLB said:
You guys are giving me a lot to think about, especially with the kick starting with Halo. 2-3 weeks at the beginning would make since, and it should be cleared by time everything is over with. Does halo cause any type of muscle pumps?

Does anyone know what the exact detection time for MK-2877 and GW-50 is?
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Bump for this question.

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stevesmi said:
ummmm of course halo gives pumps. how could it not?
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I never ran it so I don't know. I do know that winny gave me tremendous lower back pumps and var gave me forearm pumps. Are halo pumps debilitating?
 
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