Need a little help

[goatmon]

Hello I was wondering if anybody could give me some cycle advice.
I am 33 years old training for over 7 years
5'9" 188 lbs
approx 10% BF

I have never done a cycle before and was planning a cycle of Deca and Winstrol. So my questions would be: how long of a cycle (8 or 10 weeks),

should I start off with say 200 mg(Deca)for a week move to 300 for a couple then to 400 for a few more then taper down for the last few, or take it straight to 400mg until the end?

Also when should I throw the Winny in, from the start, middle, or towards the end?

And lastly what should I do for recovery (as I wish to retain all I can when I come off) and what should use (how much and how often) and also when should I start that, at the end of the Deca cycle or of the Winny cycle?

Sorry sorry for so many questions and thanks so much in advance

 

[mikebzt]

500MG Week of Test (250gm Mon, 250mg Thu)
400MG Week of EQ (200mg Mon, 200mg Thu)
10 weeks straight
PCT week 12

You should see nice gains off of this for your first cycle and keep a good portion of it. If you feel like you will hae too much bloat then take some liquidex during the cycle

 

[goatmon]

Thanks, but I was really looking for some info on the Deca/Winny cycle since that's what I'm about to get into

 

[jubei]

Use NPP instead of deca. Same chemical compound, just different ester.

 

[junk]

Use NPP instead of deca. Same chemical compound, just different ester.

Yep. NPP is better. You can always stop immediately if you encounted hard to battle progestin based gyno symptoms and it will go away fast. with nandrolone decanoate(deca) even if you stop, it will take some time till it fades out of the system

 

[hisswoleness]

whether you use NPP or deca, keep the same amounts throughout the cycle

 

[lostlazy]

Do like 300 weeks. 600 mg/Week.

 

[goatmon]

Never heard of NPP, and you guys assume that I can get my hands on anything, which would be nice, but I can't.

What about the Winny? When should that be added mid cycle, at the beginning, towards the end? And even more important what about the after cycle treatment, and suggestions on what to use, when to start and for how long?

 

[genarr3]

Never heard of NPP, and you guys assume that I can get my hands on anything, which would be nice, but I can't.

What about the Winny? When should that be added mid cycle, at the beginning, towards the end? And even more important what about the after cycle treatment, and suggestions on what to use, when to start and for how long?

Bro there's nothing wrong with what you have planned.

However pyramiding up has no value. Particularly with a long acting compound like Deca.


Pick a dose, 300mgs/week would be good and use it the whole way through.

8 or 10 weeks? It really doesn't make a difference. We usually do 10 week cycles, and you'll get all kinds of reasons why, but I'd bet the house the main reason is that most multi-dose bottles come in 10ml bottles.

We typically use Winstrol in the end. Exactly when you should start I can't tell you. You need to post how much you have and how long you plan on using it for. Ideally you want to use it up to the very last day before PCT. It's very short acting as compared to the Deca and will clear your system faster allowing you to start PCT soon after discontinuation of the Anabolics.

Post cycle. That's a bag of worms.
Nolvadex, Clomid, herbal supps.
These are your choices. Do some research on them and get back to me on what you like.

I trained for about 7 years before doing my first cycle - 200mgs/Deca week.
It was amazing. You're in for a nice ride.

 

[goatmon]

Thanks, that's what I was looking for

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