Need a little advice...help me out bros

[browndog1]

Well, the time has come for my next cycle...finally. I will have the last ingredient, the test, at the beginning of next week. The thing is, I think I may want to add some more mass before I start getting into the fina/winny (cutting time). This is my fourth cycle. I'm 6'5", 247, approx 13%.(shoddy 5 site test). I know I could easily hold 280-290 on my frame, but I don't want to be too freaky, just big and sculpted.

The cycle WAS this...

week....t200.....fina...........winny......anavar.............armidex.
1.......400.........................................................1/4mg/EOD
2.......400.........................................................1/4mg/EOD

3.......400.........................................................1/4mg/EOD
4.......400........................................................1/4mg/EOD
5.......400.....75mg/EOD...50mg/ED...........................1/4mg/EOD
6.......400.....75mg/EOD...50mg/ED..........................1/4mg/EOD
7.......400.....75mg/EOD...50mg/ED..........................1/4mg/EOD

8.......400.....75mg/EOD...50mg/ED..........................1/4mg/EOD

9.......200.....75mg/EOD...50mg/ED....40mg/ED...............1/4mg/EOD

10......200.....75mg/EOD...50mg/ED....40mg/ED..........1/4mg/EOD
11................................50mg/ED....40mg/ED........................

12...............................................40mg/ED..................

13...............clomid.......................40mg/ED................
14...............clomid.......................40mg/ED................
15...............clomid.......................40mg/ED................

Now I think I'm either going to up the t200 to 600-800mg/week the whole way through, OR switch to omnadren at 750/week for 8 weeks. There is also a chance that I would add dbol into the mix for the first 3-4 weeks (35mg/day) just for a quick kick start. I would integrate the fina/winny starting in week 6 or so with either, and if I add the dbol, regardless of the test preference, I will up the armidex to 1/4mg/ED to keep from getting too bloated and watery.

Any thoughts?????

thanks....bd

 

[browndog1]

bump for myself

 

[browndog1]

I hate when the board is busy and no one answers. You bastards.

...bd

 

[TxLonghorn]

I guess I am not clear on what you are asking. But I will add some thoughts.

If you up the test/omna into the 600-800 range and add dbol, no way in hell that 1/4 tab of arimidex is going to help much at all. Time for the full mg.

As it is written here, 1/4 is ok, however you might want to read slopains thread on breaking arimidex tabs. And then hunt down some liquidex, lol.

What are your goals for the first month? You are pretty big now, and you will only be running test at 400mg? That doesn't sound like much.

All in all I don't know if I would run this cycle. And running the ox during your clomid therapy will hinder your body's ability to get the hpta back up and running.

tx

 

[miles]

what are your goals

What are you trying to accomplish with this one? It looks like a mixture of a bulking cycle and a cutting cycle. So, I bet your results won't be what you want. Personally, when cutting that much test doesn't do me any good. When bulking that looks pretty good, but the finna and winny and anavar aren't really the drugs to use if you are bulking. I am sure you will feel great on it, but if you are trying to sculpt I would drop the test down some, and maybe use EQ or DECA instead of all that other stuff. Wait a little while, and then cut with the rest of what you have.

 

[browndog1]

Well, I was going to try and get to 260 and be a bit leaner (10-11%), then I found a good deal on some omnas and have a good deal on the t200, so I figured I'd up it. Hey TxLonghorn, good point on the clomid anavar...I would probably wait on the clomid till the end of everything.

...bd

 

[AnabolicDiabetic]

If you want to cut, I say go with the Winny/Fina then the clomid to get back up to speed, the anavar. If you want a longer cycle then switch the order of clomid and ana. See how you feel and what you look like after you cut up and then, if you want to be more of a freak, go with a true bulking cycle.

 

[browndog1]

What about the notion of adding test to every cycle? Would I get a whole hell of a lot off just 400mg of test? Would it be worth it to even spend a month on it by itself (as indicated above) before starting the fina/winny?

Also, would it be a better idea to end the fina/winny, do the clomid, then go into the anavar by itself after restoring HPTA levels with the clomid?

See, I wouldn't mind being 280 or so (making me want to up the test, add the dbol and get some size), I'd be huge at that point, but I still have yet to see my abs-EVER, so that was the original reasoning behind the cycle. I mat seem big at 250, but I don't have huge shoulders or a huge chest, and I know I could carry another 10 pounds on my legs alone. I just don't know....SHIT!!!!!!!!


...bd

 

[TxLonghorn]

Ok, this clears things up a bit. Your cycle looks like you don't know what the hell you want, so you just threw some stuff together.

Well, it's your decision, but seeing abs is pretty fucking cool. And chicks dig abs, man oh man.

Anyways, I would think a good cutting cycle with what you have would be...

test, run it at 400mg or so for 12 weeks.
run the ox fina/winny combo for the first 6 weeks
then hit the ox for the remaining 6 weeks

Also, I would add some t3 in there like from weeks 2-8 at 25mcg.

Then hit the clomid and look at yourself in the mirror.

Also, if you can stomach it, run the fina ed, instead of eod. You will get results either way, but tren is just more amazing if taken every day.

 

[PYRO]

im up 30 lbs off the test at 400mgs . hope you see the same resullts

 

[browndog1]

Thanks for the advice Tx. (Just as a side note, I got into UT- didn't go though- and my folks lived in Houston for quite a while...damn nice campus and great music in Austin too)

Anyways...Not sure if i have enough ox to run it 12 weeks.

SO---If I run test 10 weeks, should I start the 6-7 weeks of fina/winny at week 1, or wait till week 6 or so? Why?

If I do start all at the same time, can I hold off on the ox and do it toward the end, say week 7-8, and go for 8 weeks or so??

I appreciate the help once again.

...bd

 

[browndog1]

anyone else? Thanks....bd

 

[TxLonghorn]

Anyways...Not sure if i have enough ox to run it 12 weeks.

SO---If I run test 10 weeks, should I start the 6-7 weeks of fina/winny at week 1, or wait till week 6 or so? Why?

If I do start all at the same time, can I hold off on the ox and do it toward the end, say week 7-8, and go for 8 weeks or so??

I appreciate the help once again.

...bd

I meant run the ox for 6 weeks only, starting in week #7. The first 6 weeks would be the test/tren/winny, then, enter week #7. Stop the tren/winny, and hit the ox.

And I was just putting down a 12 week cycle because that looks about the length you wanted.

The reason I separated the ox from the tren/winny is because most people don't want to do the frequent injects from the tren, so 6 weeks is fine. That allows the ox to come in and pick up some slack from the absent tren/winny. But, you could run them all together, I just think since you are cutting, it would be a waste to run them all together.

And yes, I would start the tren/winny at week 1. Why? Because that shit will kick in so fast and you will be so pleased and you will start to cry out at random intervals during the day, 'I love fina, and all it's fina goodness!'

Was that clearer than my first post?

 

[browndog1]

lmao...

I like fina too...this will be my second time using it. Okay, I'm clear now. Since it's going to take a few weeks for the t200 to kick in, start the fina winny with the test. Then end the fina winny at week 7 while starting the anavar, and continuing the test till my stopping point.

I was also thinking about stopping the test in week10, and then continuing the ox a couple of weeks past that. If I were to do that, what would be the ideal time to begin the clomid??

...bd

 

[TxLonghorn]

If you did that, I would wait a week after you stop the ox. You could start earlier, but I like to wait a full week gear free.

Did I just say, 'gear free'? Omg, what's happening to me?

Man, I love fina and all it's fina goodness!

 

[browndog1]

You've been a lot of help Tx. I'll let you know how things go, as I'm starting Monday or Tuesday. (whenever the test gets here..lol)

...bd